AMD or Intel?

[Admiral Michael]

Which processor type do you like the best?

[Sastraxi]

I voted AMD because I'm always on a limited budget for building computers; it gives the most bang for your buck.

[JungleMan]

Unless you are building a no-holds-barred computer, I would go with AMD. Sure, the P4 2.8 is the fastest...but at what cost?

The $188 XP2400+ can overclock to 2.3Ghz and will come pretty close to some of the top P4s. Bump up the FSB and it gets even better.

Or better yet, check my signature, and see my $51 processor that runs at XP2100+ speeds, and that chip is considered a "dud" compared to some others

[DiGiTaIErRoR]

The P4 2.4 with 533 FSB runs $186. And the P4 2.53 runs $229. Which I would think would insignificantly beat an xp2600+.

Then again. Xp 2600+ are $296.

P4's memory bandwidth is impressive, soaring nearly 2 times beyond an AMD.

And ATA133 can truly be obtained using a P4.(well about 122 MB/s, compared to an AMD that can, if it can, reach 100 MB/s, most go around 70-90 MB/s).

I'm considering a P4 system. I use an AMD Athlon XP 1600+ now.

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
[BAnd ATA133 can truly be obtained using a P4.(well about 122 MB/s, compared to an AMD that can, if it can, reach 100 MB/s, most go around 70-90 MB/s).[/B]

OK, now that statement is a complete lie. ATA/133 is not being utilized on the physical hard drive end of things; it really has nothing to do with the processor/board. 7200rpm hard disks aren't physically fast enough to transfer 133MB/sec of data.

P4's memory bandwidth is impressive, soaring nearly 2 times beyond an AMD.

Another lie. P4s with DDR often have LESS memory bandwidth than AMDs...RDRAM is 1066Mhz but there's so much latency involved that it's just a little faster than DDR333.

I say that P4s with DDR have less memory bandwidth because Intel is just now announcing DDR333 support, whereas AMD systems have had it for over 6 months.

The P4 2.4 with 533 FSB runs $186. And the P4 2.53 runs $229. Which I would think would insignificantly beat an xp2600+.

And the XP2400+ is $187, same exact price as the 2.4Ghz...take the processor up to 2.3GHz on air cooling, FSB up to 200Mhz, Turbo RAM timings, and the P4 wouldn't stand a chance even at 3GHz.

And XP2600+ isn't for sale yet you dimwit. The XP2400s were $225 on pre-release, and now they are $187. XP2000s, when they came out, were $350 or so, and they dropped within a week or two.

[siyan]

I don't think that anyone with a lick of sense and a budget would consider an Intel processor. Athlon XPs are just dandy for a desktop machine and a heck of a lot cheaper too.

[Sheppe]

I'm an oldschool intel fan. *shrug* I can afford it.

[VisionIT]

Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
The P4 2.4 with 533 FSB runs $186. And the P4 2.53 runs $229. Which I would think would insignificantly beat an xp2600+.

Then again. Xp 2600+ are $296.

P4's memory bandwidth is impressive, soaring nearly 2 times beyond an AMD.

And ATA133 can truly be obtained using a P4.(well about 122 MB/s, compared to an AMD that can, if it can, reach 100 MB/s, most go around 70-90 MB/s).

I have replied to several posts where DigitalError has made utterly stupid comments. I only now pay £168 + VAT for my XP 2600, but when you wrote that post, they weren't even available to wholesalers / RDI's. Please could you inform the whole forum where you get these "facts". People rely on these forums for honest, GOOD advice, which from what i've seen so far, you seem to give very little.

You obviously have some knowledge... but a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing ! Remember that !

Anyway, ranting over...

I sell both AMD & Intel CPU's, and refuse to compare two very different, but very good processors. AMD's QuantiSpeed & Intel's HT technology are both complimented with todays mainstream DDR. If you're looking for a new motherboard soon, don't buy RD compliant mainboards, stick with DDR.

Regards,

Initially raged, now somewhat chilled - Paul.

[JungleMan]

I think the ATA/133 comment really takes the cake, when it's a common fact that regardless of platform, 122Mb/sec on an IDE drive is impossible.