Best Video Card for US$40.

**JoshT** · Oct 25th, 2002, 10:03 AM

What are some decent video cards available for under about US$40 (or under $50 if you can get them at newegg with free shipping). I need to upgrade my brother's computer so it can play Worms Blast at least - right now he has a ATI Rage128 8MB i gave him. The rest of the computer is decent (XP1700+, 256MB) - when I built it for him he wanted to save money and was just going to use it for homework, so I gave him my spare card.

**Sastraxi** · Oct 25th, 2002, 04:18 PM

ATI Radeon 7000 is the beast you want

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...ti+radeon+7000

**JoshT** · Oct 25th, 2002, 04:54 PM

How's the ATI? I've been looking at Geforce 2 MX400's so far.

**Sastraxi** · Oct 25th, 2002, 05:14 PM

The GeForce2 MX is better at 3D gaming but the 7000 has better 2D graphics, and graphics quality in general. (the difference is like 3:2, if the GF2MX got 30fps the R7000 would get 20, etc.)

**Sastraxi** · Oct 25th, 2002, 05:16 PM

You can get the 7500 OEM for $55 or $57 (Retail, but PowerColour brand name) after shipping, here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...on=radeon+7500

**JungleMan** · Oct 25th, 2002, 06:52 PM

Yeah I'd go for the 7500 at a very minimum. 7000 or even GF2 is a waste of your money/time...

**JoshT** · Oct 28th, 2002, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Sastraxi
You can get the 7500 OEM for $55 or $57 (Retail, but PowerColour brand name) after shipping, here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...on=radeon+7500

That's getting into to much money though - I'd like to keep the game ($20) and video card's total under $70 including shipping. It's going to be a Christmas present - if I'm going to splurge I might as well get him a Playstation 2.

**prog_tom** · Oct 29th, 2002, 07:30 PM

i feel sorry for you dude, i already preordered myself AIW 9700pro. What gfx card do you have right now? I cannot wait to get my hands on AIW 9700pro, dude. And I'm getting a WD 120gig for xmas as Justin suggested...

Once I get my hands on these new hardwares, I'm going to get rid of my GF4 ti4400, it ran Mafia like shiiiiit.

**JungleMan** · Oct 29th, 2002, 07:36 PM

You can always send that shiiiiiity Ti4400 to me

**Sastraxi** · Oct 29th, 2002, 08:10 PM

You don't need a new graphics card Justing

Isn't chrismas about giving to the NEEDY? *cough GF2MX cough*

**JungleMan** · Oct 29th, 2002, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Sastraxi
You don't need a new graphics card Justing

Isn't chrismas about giving to the NEEDY? *cough GF2MX cough*

*cough GF2 MX here too cough*

I have a good week left with this Radeon 9700 Pro and I sold my Ti200 so I'll be stuck on a GF2 MX for about a little while, until I can find a new graphics card that is...no idea what I'm gonna get yet

I am not going to rush myself...

Tom that is just peachy but at least I earn whatever's in my system and don't have my mommy buy me it

and BTW, I know a lot of people who run Mafia fine on GF4s or even GF3s.

**SteveCRM** · Oct 29th, 2002, 08:36 PM

worms blast...tried it the other day....sucks ass

**JoshT** · Oct 29th, 2002, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by SteveCRM
worms blast...tried it the other day....sucks ass

I don't know, but Worms World Party was sweet.

**JoshT** · Oct 29th, 2002, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by prog_tom
i feel sorry for you dude, i already preordered myself AIW 9700pro. What gfx card do you have right now? I cannot wait to get my hands on AIW 9700pro, dude. And I'm getting a WD 120gig for xmas as Justin suggested...

Don't feel sorry for me - it's not my video card I'm upgrading. But for what's its worth - I run a 16MB ATI Rage 128 in my main computer, a 32MB TNT2 M64 in my other computer, and integrated S3 graphics in my spare computer, and I'm perfectly happy with all of them. Plus I have a bit of a collection of PCI Video cards, at least a dozen...

**SteveCRM** · Oct 29th, 2002, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by JoshT
I don't know, but Worms World Party was sweet.

hell yeah

but worms blast is just like a big breakout game

**Sastraxi** · Oct 29th, 2002, 09:59 PM

Did I mention I'm on a celeron?

**prog_tom** · Nov 3rd, 2002, 09:27 AM

Celeron rocks.

Even though I run a 2200+ now on my Asus board

With my 120gig WD1200J.

heh heh, and my AIW Radeon 9700Pro is already in state, should be here by my door tomorrow morning.

**Sastraxi** · Nov 3rd, 2002, 10:43 AM

Celerons DO rock for stability and business apps, but in no way do they rock for gaming or multimedia (no floating point).

**parksie** · Nov 3rd, 2002, 11:03 AM

They must have an FPU in....probably not a particularly fast one, but all Pentium class ones have an FPU.

**JungleMan** · Nov 3rd, 2002, 11:39 AM

What parksie said...all Intels after the Pentium have some sort of FPU.

Celeron also has less cache than their Pentium counterparts. And unlike the Duron, they are feature-cut P3s, rather than the Duron which is just cache-cut (other than that, it's the same chip). This really gives the Duron an edge over the Celeron, though nobody realizes it.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1622&p=7

The Celeron's FPU is cut down even more from the already-weak Pentium 4 FPU, plus the 8k of L1 and 128K of L2, makes it the poorest choice for 3D animation work and gaming...which is why the Duron 1.3 actually beat the Celeron at 2.26Ghz in that test. That's pretty rare, but read the other benchmarks and you'll see how the Duron even pulls ahead of the Celeron in SSE2 tasks.

What's even funnier is that the Duron has half the cache of the Celeron...and it still wins in some stuff. Sadly they're stopping production of the Duron but it was a damn good competitor to the Smelleron...

**Sastraxi** · Nov 3rd, 2002, 12:18 PM

You've sunk so low as to call something 'smelleron'...

If there were half-decent computer stores around here I'd BE on a Duron right now. But no such luck... They're all Intel junkies.

**JoshT** · Nov 4th, 2002, 11:24 PM

I have a 950Mhz Duron - they're are pretty good for a cheap chip, I can't complain.

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