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    Talking Linear/Quad.

    Ok, just wondering how you find the horizontal asymptote of
    y = (ax + b)/(cx2 + dx + e)
    (i.e. a linear divided by a quadratic

    I know how to do linear/linear, but not linear/quad. Is it always 0?? (if not, the book i have is bad as the only examples is horizontal asymptote = 0.)
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    The horizontal asssimptote is the limit (provided it does exist) of the derivative when x -> infinity.

    The derivative of your function is (hope I haven't made any mistakes!):

    y' = (-acx2 - 2bcx +ae -bd) / (cx2+dx+e)2

    This obviously tends to 0 for x tending to infinity regardless of the values for the parameters (a,b,c,d,e)

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    Talking Always 0 then?

    I take it that that means that it is always 0, which is what i thought. However, i just said (to the person asking me what the answer was) that it would always be 0, as
    abs((cx2 + dx + e) - (ax + b)) will always get bigger as x moves from 0, so eventually
    (cx2 + dx + e) will become so much bigger than (ax + b)
    that
    (ax + b)/(cx2 + dx + e) will keep getting smaller and smaller, eventually 0 when x -> infinity
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    Well, if you want to avoid the derivatives and all the strict math then the way you put it is more elegant.
    As a matter of fact, simple observation of the function shows that the denominator gets bigger at a higher rate than the numerator.

    Another way to put it is: divide everything by the largest power, here x2 and what's left is:

    (a/x + b/x2) / (c + d/x + e/x2)

    When x -> infinity, all the terms having x tend to 0 and you get 0/c = 0

    The shorter and simpler the answer, the better!

    Sometimes I think that using math to prove these sort of things is almost like cheating, the real thing is using one's brain!


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    Talking THankyou

    Thanks for your answer.
    I prefer it even more. (Much simpler to explain to person who asked me.)
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