This might be usefull

[MoMad]

I use this website all the time: Clases, clases, clases, if you like stl and c++, this might be somewhat php's version of a collection of classes... not really, but for alot of the repetitive stuff, i use classes that wrapped it nicely... so far im only using the db class from this website but its definately worth looking at:

http://www.phpclasses.org/

The db class, which is VERY good and straightforward (well designed if i may add)... is at:
(http://www.phpclasses.org/browse.html/package/242.html)

Also another site (which is official) is the PEAR:

http://pear.php.net (but u might have to install some stuff)

Also, finally, a few more php code pages:

http://www.zend.com/codex.php
http://www.phpbuilder.com
http://www.code4u.com/

[phpman]

those are weak compared to www.php.net and the manual.

[MoMad]

But ofcourse!

[The Hobo]

Originally posted by phpman
those are weak compared to www.php.net and the manual.

The manual can't give you everything.

Like, uh...


...women.

[MoMad]

The manual doesnt give you a complete class or module that you can use in your code, it doesnt give you specific code that is ready to use, it doesnt give you anything much less the documentation and how to use those things, it does NOT put the pieces together for you. The manual is not a usable program!!

[The Hobo]

Originally posted by MoMad
The manual doesnt give you a complete class or module that you can use in your code, it doesnt give you specific code that is ready to use, it doesnt give you anything much less the documentation and how to use those things, it does NOT put the pieces together for you. The manual is not a usable program!!

I like making my own programs, not throwing a bunch of other people's code together to make something. So the manual works fine for me.

[phpman]

that was the point I was trying to make Hobo,

MoMad the point of php is to learn it and tearing apart peoples code is a fine way but the manual is exactly what you said, a tool to be read and learned by. read it and learn what those things do then you can make your own classes that work and you know the ins and outs of it.

[MoMad]

Yes but I learn faster from examples and besides, its not like i have all the time in the world to come up with these ideas... just take an already made class and modify it to fit ur needs, thats what i did with the db class.

Anyways, if you like reinventing the wheel, thats fine, but not everyone does.

[MoMad]

Originally posted by The Hobo
I like making my own programs, not throwing a bunch of other people's code together to make something. So the manual works fine for me.

BTW you are saying it in such a way that even using PHP is a bad idea... I see your point but I think if someone else can do it better then its best to learn from them and try to improve (or capitalize) on their mistakes... u kno what i mean?

[The Hobo]

Originally posted by MoMad
BTW you are saying it in such a way that even using PHP is a bad idea... I see your point but I think if someone else can do it better then its best to learn from them and try to improve (or capitalize) on their mistakes... u kno what i mean?

Maybe I like the satisfactory of knowing that I didn't have to rely on others and their code.

But that's probably just me.

And reinventing the wheel? It's not like that wheel is complex.

[MoMad]

LOL!! Hey man, everyone's gotta start somewhere... anyways, if you think you can do better, then go ahead, but if you just want to lecture me, just let it go.

[The Hobo]

Do better with what?