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    Exclamation another 'what book should i get' thread : BUT DIFFERENT!!!!!!!

    Im getting $25 coupon for amazon soon, and want to spend it on a c++ book (ill contribute some of my own money, scarce as it is) since I spent an entire year taking a c++ class to learn diddly squat (thats a c++ term). I read that thinking in c++ book, but its not exactly what I want. Im a very big example-driven person. I want a book that, for each topic, has some code, and explains the code. Then maybe an appendix at the back to define everything.
    Thats why this thread is different from all the others.
    Cause im picky
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    clarification:
    NOT VISUAL C++, .NET, or any branded type of code.

    Just plain iso c++
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    Originally posted by markman
    clarification:
    NOT VISUAL C++, .NET, or any branded type of code.

    Just plain iso c++
    Sorry, bro.
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    Ive heard good things about "The Standard Template Library". While it sounds like "branded type code", learning it will be the best thing you have ever done (since the STL is availible on all compilers that you will ever use =).

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    Hi,
    I bought three books from Amazon.com last month (actually my boss bought them for me. ;-)

    1. "The C++ Programming Language" by Stroustrup
    2. "The C++ Standard Library" by Josuttis

    Ref. #1 has lots of fractured code samples...meaning he writes the template version of some function without showing it relative to more complete code. Now, after a month of digging into C++ I can actually understand half of the book. But it can be very discouraging to a newbie C++ programmer.

    Ref. #2 provided complete examples, but not really enough. The examples provided a few general possibilities especially dealing with strings and vectors for example. I have found Ref #2 to be more useful then Ref. #1.

    Now, neither book was complete. I had to read a little of the book, search this C++ forum, look at various code fragments on this forum and various explanations, experiment with hundreds of small programs just to be able to appreciate both books more.

    I have found various tutorials for C++ STL but am unsatisfied because most assume you know too much already and do not provide enought 'baby step' programs that guide you into the concepts. I guess I'll have to write my own. :-)

    I did get a third book the "OpenGL Superbible". That benefited me more initially than the first two but now Ref. #2 is more useful.

    Regards,
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    Ah, I was referring to Chuck's number two (wasnt sure of the name =).

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    thanks

    now i just wait for my free coupon (6-8 weeks )
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    If by chance you know German well there is an excellent book: "C/C++ Professionell programmieren, Kompendium", by Dirk Louis, published by "Markt+Technik Verlag".

    It gives you a good knowledge of nearly all features of C and C++, a (very) short introduction to windows programming and a very good reference to both the C and C++ standard libraries. It follows the newest standard convention (<header> and some template conventions). It features ~100 example console apps.

    The best book on C++ I've ever read. Sadly it's to the best of my knowledge not available in English.
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    C++: How to Program by Deitel & Deitel, ISBN 0-13-089571-7 (it's right in front of me)

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    I usually say "Don't buy a book. You can find more than enough information on the internet!"

    But yeah, buy a book. Helps the economy. Money changing hands and all that good stuff.
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    Dumb question: do you know C? I find it's alot easier to get into C++ after you know C. If you don't know C yet, i'd suggest two books:

    The C Programming Language by Kernihan and Ritchie (the guys who created C)

    Practical C Programming from O'Reilly.

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    Originally posted by Zaffir
    Dumb question: do you know C? I find it's alot easier to get into C++ after you know C. If you don't know C yet, i'd suggest two books:

    The C Programming Language by Kernihan and Ritchie (the guys who created C)

    Practical C Programming from O'Reilly.
    Horrible suggestion. Its actually the exact opposite. People with a base in a function based language often times have trouble getting into the object oriented frame of mind, which means that it is far harder to take advantage of all of the features of C++.

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    Originally posted by Zaei
    Horrible suggestion. Its actually the exact opposite. People with a base in a function based language often times have trouble getting into the object oriented frame of mind, which means that it is far harder to take advantage of all of the features of C++.

    Z.
    Could be. I guess everyone's different. I just know that my C++ books made alot more sense once i had read through the ones i listed.

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