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    Algebra problem?

    If x,y,z are part of the set of reals where x <> y <> z, whose sum is zero and product is 2, find values of x^3 +y^3 + z^3.
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    Geez how come i got -6?
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    so you didnt actually do it?
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    fine then and i think 91 was the answer to the one with the three roots right?
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    Originally posted by SilverSprite
    Geez how come i got -6?
    Prove it.


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    x+y+z=0
    xyz=2

    (x+y+z)^3=0^3

    Expand and get:
    x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2+6xyz=0

    Sub in xyz=2 to get:
    x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2=12

    Common factor:
    x^3+y^3+z^3+3x^2 (y+z)+3y^2 (x+z)+3z^2 (x+y)=12

    Sub solving for x,y,z in the first statment and subbing them back in then subtracting:
    - 2x^3 - 2y^3 - 2z^3=12

    Dividing both sides by -2 you get:
    x^3+y^3+z^3=-6
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    Or that would work. And your right. And i'm not sure how you did it though.
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    Hey Silver, is it nice talking to yourself?

    You might suffer a personality split.





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    Excuse me.

    x^3 +y^3 + z^3 != (x+y+z)^3

    (x+y+z)^3=(x+y+z)(x+y+z)(x+y+z) != x^3 +y^3 + z^3

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    Unless I'm not understanding the original question.

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    When I put in x^3+y^3+z^3 and x+y+z=0 and x*y*z=2 into my ti-92, it returns false.

    And if x*y*z=2 then how can you get a negative result for them ^3? The signs would be the same. Thus the result would be a positive.

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    Wait. I know

    -.9999... recurring, -1, 2

    I get a positive 6.


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    Yo Digital, I see you made a new nick.

    Congratulations.

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    Originally posted by SilverSprite
    x+y+z=0
    xyz=2

    (x+y+z)^3=0^3

    Expand and get:
    x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2+6xyz=0

    Sub in xyz=2 to get:
    x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2=-12

    Common factor:
    x^3+y^3+z^3+3x^2 (y+z)+3y^2 (x+z)+3z^2 (x+y)=-12

    Sub solving for x,y,z in the first statment and subbing them back in then subtracting:
    - 2x^3 - 2y^3 - 2z^3=-12

    Dividing both sides by -2 you get:
    x^3+y^3+z^3=6
    Sorry, I saw a small error involving the sub of xyz=2 that I Just had to fix.

    -Lou

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    My mistake
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    what happened to the really nice proof that got the answer in three lines?
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