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Sep 26th, 2002, 05:26 PM
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Algebra problem?
If x,y,z are part of the set of reals where x <> y <> z, whose sum is zero and product is 2, find values of x^3 +y^3 + z^3.
YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 26th, 2002, 08:29 PM
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YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 26th, 2002, 08:33 PM
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so you didnt actually do it?
YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 26th, 2002, 08:50 PM
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fine then and i think 91 was the answer to the one with the three roots right?
YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 26th, 2002, 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by SilverSprite
Geez how come i got -6?
Prove it.
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Sep 27th, 2002, 03:44 PM
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x+y+z=0
xyz=2
(x+y+z)^3=0^3
Expand and get:
x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2+6xyz=0
Sub in xyz=2 to get:
x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2=12
Common factor:
x^3+y^3+z^3+3x^2 (y+z)+3y^2 (x+z)+3z^2 (x+y)=12
Sub solving for x,y,z in the first statment and subbing them back in then subtracting:
- 2x^3 - 2y^3 - 2z^3=12
Dividing both sides by -2 you get:
x^3+y^3+z^3=-6
YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 27th, 2002, 03:45 PM
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Or that would work. And your right. And i'm not sure how you did it though.
YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 29th, 2002, 05:30 AM
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Hey Silver, is it nice talking to yourself?
You might suffer a personality split.
...Oh, and you're too
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Sep 29th, 2002, 10:34 AM
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Excuse me.
x^3 +y^3 + z^3 != (x+y+z)^3
(x+y+z)^3=(x+y+z)(x+y+z)(x+y+z) != x^3 +y^3 + z^3
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Sep 29th, 2002, 10:35 AM
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Unless I'm not understanding the original question.
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Sep 29th, 2002, 10:39 AM
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When I put in x^3+y^3+z^3 and x+y+z=0 and x*y*z=2 into my ti-92, it returns false.
And if x*y*z=2 then how can you get a negative result for them ^3? The signs would be the same. Thus the result would be a positive.
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Sep 29th, 2002, 10:41 AM
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Wait. I know
-.9999... recurring, -1, 2
I get a positive 6.
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Sep 29th, 2002, 03:08 PM
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Yo Digital, I see you made a new nick.
Congratulations.
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Sep 29th, 2002, 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by SilverSprite
x+y+z=0
xyz=2
(x+y+z)^3=0^3
Expand and get:
x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2+6xyz=0
Sub in xyz=2 to get:
x^3+y^3+z^3+3xy^2+3xz^2+3yx^2+3zx^2+3yz^2+3zy^2= -12
Common factor:
x^3+y^3+z^3+3x^2 (y+z)+3y^2 (x+z)+3z^2 (x+y)=-12
Sub solving for x,y,z in the first statment and subbing them back in then subtracting:
- 2x^3 - 2y^3 - 2z^3=-12
Dividing both sides by -2 you get:
x^3+y^3+z^3=6
Sorry, I saw a small error involving the sub of xyz=2 that I Just had to fix.
-Lou
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Sep 29th, 2002, 04:20 PM
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My mistake
YL says:"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts."(Einstein)
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Sep 29th, 2002, 05:06 PM
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what happened to the really nice proof that got the answer in three lines?
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