hmm anyway, problem about not using a setup prog is that you cant write your file copying/registering util in VB cos it needs the VB runtimes..well p&d basically copies vbruntime and some other dlls and then runs the main setup.exe (written in VB, cos u can edit the project as shown on wbworld). but the first bit that copies the runtimes is written in C/C++ cos no runtimes are needed (assuming no MFC). So...if u know a little C++ just write a simple automatic installer, and your prog can be quite small.

actually, just realized all the above is irrelevant cos the VB runtime DLL is the thing taking up the space neway

oh well
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