How do I find out what a server is?

**msimmons** · Sep 17th, 2002, 03:59 PM

I just appointed as webmaster of a band's website but I don't think I can run ASP on it... (I ran a script but could see the code) how do I find out what it is?
Michael

**JoshT** · Sep 17th, 2002, 08:06 PM

Use telnet or a similar program to connect to the server at port 80. Issue the following HTTP command:

HEAD / HTTP/1.0
{hit enter twice}

And see what the server sends you back. You can use GET instead of HEAD if you like.

**Zaei** · Sep 17th, 2002, 09:17 PM

Type fast, the server timeout might kick you out before you can.

Z.

**msimmons** · Sep 18th, 2002, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by JoshT
Use telnet or a similar program to connect to the server at port 80. Issue the following HTTP command:

HEAD / HTTP/1.0
{hit enter twice}

And see what the server sends you back. You can use GET instead of HEAD if you like.

pardon my ignorance but could you tell me how to connect?
Michael

**JoshT** · Sep 18th, 2002, 09:58 AM

Open up a cmd or shell window, type:
telnet yourWebServer 80

You can use host name or ip address for yourWebServer. This should work the same on any OS that has a telnet program (Windows, Linux, etc), although is the local echo option isn't set, you might not see what you type, just what the server sends back, so don't make any typos.

**msimmons** · Sep 18th, 2002, 10:08 AM

Cool. I did that, typed in "HEAD / HTTP/1.0", and hit enter twice. It showed me the HTML of the index page... what does that mean?
Michael

**JoshT** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:02 PM

Hmm, HEAD should get you the HTTP headers only and no content...

**msimmons** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:05 PM

I just tried again using "HEAD / HTTP/1.0" and it does give me everything. (just like a view source.)

Michael

**JoshT** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:11 PM

They running some older or oddly configured server?

**msimmons** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:14 PM

I have no idea

Thats what I was trying to figure out w/this thread. It's a friend's band's website & I was volenteered to be the new webmaster so I was wanting to do some ASP but after that failed I wanted to know what could be run & whatnot.
Michael

**Kings** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:31 PM

Use this program, http://grc.com/id/idserve.htm

**msimmons** · Sep 18th, 2002, 02:37 PM

Thanks, that program worked.

Server: Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) ApacheJServ/1.1.2 PHP/4.2.1 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510

So this means that i would use PHP correct?

Michael

**JoshT** · Sep 18th, 2002, 02:51 PM

Yes, its says PHP. CGI won't show up in the Server banner, though.

**msimmons** · Sep 18th, 2002, 02:58 PM

K, thanks. I'll just tell them to move to another server

I'm an ASP (vbscript) programer, no sense in learning a new language for something I was volenteered to do.
Michael

**Kings** · Sep 19th, 2002, 09:12 AM

You might wanna learn PHP though. It's very easy to learn it if you already know ASP.

**msimmons** · Sep 19th, 2002, 09:14 AM

I think if I do learn a new language it will be Java.
Michael

**Sastraxi** · Sep 19th, 2002, 03:08 PM

I learned PHP in 3 hours, after already having learned ASP. Just an evening will get you going, believe me

**msimmons** · Sep 19th, 2002, 03:10 PM

Where did you learn it from? I learned ASP from ASP101 (in the begining) is there a PHP101? (not literaly, i just checked).
Michael

**amitabh** · Sep 20th, 2002, 08:54 AM

Try www.php.net and www.phpbuilder.com .

**Sastraxi** · Sep 20th, 2002, 12:04 PM

I picked up a couple of Wrox and O'Reilly books on the topic.

**Sastraxi** · Sep 20th, 2002, 12:05 PM

I didn't use this, but I found a great resource just now:
http://p2p.wrox.com/php/

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