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    Solve for x!

    Solve for x

    1.(x+1)^5= x^5+1
    2.(x+1/x)^2-5(x+1/x)=6
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    (x+1)^5=x^5+1
    x^5+5x^4+10x^3+10x^2+5x+1=x^5+1
    5x(x^3+2x^2+2x+1)=0
    x(x+1)(x^2+x+1)=0
    x=0, or x=-1, or x=-1/2+/- 3i
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    i think...

    I'm not exactly sure, but i think that (1) and (2) are different Questions.

    For 2):
    **(x <> 0, as there is the term 1/x)

    let y = (x+1/x) = (x2 + 1)/x
    _________(from this x2-y(x) + 1 =0)
    => y2 - 5y - 6 = 0
    => (y-6)(y+1) = 0
    => y = 6 or -1

    => either
    x2-6x + 1 =0 -(2 answers)
    or
    x2+x + 1 =0 -(2 answers)

    (Both are simple application of quadratic forumla)
    4 answers -none are 0
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    Assuming that there are two different problems, the solution to the first problem by Kalkewl8ter looks good to me.

    There seems to be some confusion in the Sql_Lall post about the second problem. As I understand his analysis, he correctly solves for a variable Y, which can be 6 or minus one.

    Y = (x+1)/x (defined as such early in the post).

    Y = 6 implies x = 1/5
    Y = -1 implies x = -1/2

    The above values plugged into the second equation seem to work okay.
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    The first questions asked for solutions in the complex domain! I'm sorry if i missed that part!
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    Oh, you're asking seperate? I thought you meant solve for x applicable to both equations....

    otherwise

    1) x= -1/2 (+/-) sqrt(3)i/2 or x = 0 or x =-1

    2)x= -1/2 (+/-) sqrt(3)i/2 or

    x = (+/-) (2*sqrt(2)(+/-)3) where (+/-) both are + or both are -

    unless by -5 you mean multiply and not subtract?

    if you meant multiplied by -5 then:

    2) x=.379455070524 (+/-) 1.53443682794i or
    x= .151874214067 (+/-) .614147511474i or
    x= (+/-)(sqrt(6^(2/3)*5^(4/3)-100) (+/-) 6^(1/3)*5^(2/3)) / 10 where (+/-) are inverse

    And I wasn't thinking imaginary... so even if you were asking what I originally thought....

    x=-1/2 (+/-) sqrt(3)i/2
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    just one thing:

    There seems to be some confusion in the Sql_lall post about the second problem. As I understand his analysis, he correctly solves for a variable Y, which can be 6 or minus one.

    Y = (x+1)/x (defined as such early in the post).

    Y = 6 implies x = 1/5
    Y = -1 implies x = -1/2

    The above values plugged into the second equation seem to work okay.
    Actually, y = x +(1/x), or as i put it: y = (x2+1)/x
    i think there is some confusion over whether
    x+1/x = (x+1)/x
    OR = x+(1/x)
    I took it as the latter.
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    Sql_Lall: After rereading the original post by SilverSprite, I think your interpretation is correct: x+1/x, not (x+1)/x. I did not read it properly.

    Hence your post is correct, and solving the quadratics you developed would give correct solutions.
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