VB vs C++

**kleinma** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:18 AM

im not worried about speed... people are upgrading their computers all the time.. here at work we are all on 2k machines @ 1ghz and we just ordered 2.4 ghz machines to replace these.. so yeah if you are running win 98 on a P200 with the framework installed.. yeah an app might run slow.. but as far as my job goes.. my apps will run plenty fast enough

**Imogen** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:23 AM

You wouldnt say that if you were writing games

Imogen

**tr0n** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:29 AM

well, like i said, i've got an OpenGL program (where you can walk around a small 3D environment) at home written in C# that runs very fast (i get about 70fps). i have the source code too.

**Muddy** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by tr0n
isn't there also an issue with .net that the first time you run it, it'll run quite slowly because of just-in-time compilation. but the second time you run it, it'll be much faster?

I think the issue is that .net only compiles what it needs for a run. So if a procedure gets called 10 times, it compiles on the first call but not the subsequent ones. Parts of the prog that never get used during a run never get compiled. At least thats the way I understand it.

Why the hell did this get moved to Chit Chat anyway?

**Muddy** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by tr0n
well, like i said, i've got an OpenGL program (where you can walk around a small 3D environment) at home written in C# that runs very fast (i get about 70fps). i have the source code too.

Can you convert to C++ (VS6) and do some comparsons (if the code isnt too complex)?

**Imogen** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:59 AM

Chit Chat?

Obviously someone doesnt understand that we are discussing the complexities of the VB and C++ languages.

Chit Chat indeed.

imogen

**tr0n** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Muddy

Can you convert to C++ (VS6) and do some comparsons (if the code isnt too complex)?

sorry, but C++ scares me.

**parksie** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 11:48 AM

Weed

I like C++ because it runs on something *other* than Windows

**Imogen** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:02 PM

I dislike it for the very same reason

imogen

**parksie** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Imogen
I dislike it for the very same reason

imogen

Nooooo......evil M$ lover!!! BURN HER!!!!!!

Heh, kidding -- I use Windows at home for normal use, but most of my development is on Linux

Use Solaris and Irix at work, much more fun than Windows

**Imogen** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:09 PM

LOL
In all seriousness I like MS stuff, Unix and Linux.

I just think that in all reality MS has brought computing forward in leaps and bounds.

You cant deny that

Imogen

**Zaei** · Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by tr0n
well, like i said, i've got an OpenGL program (where you can walk around a small 3D environment) at home written in C# that runs very fast (i get about 70fps). i have the source code too.

Totally inconclusive =). I could write a DX App in VB6 that performs easily as well as one in VC++6. Since DX(or OGL, you pick) is already a compiled DLL, its going to run at the same speed, whatever the calling language is, as long as most of the code is DX or OGL calls.

Also, the speed of the aforementioned calls is nearly 100% dependant on your Video card, or CPU speed, depending on the video card that you have.

Z.

[edit]
Oh yeah, and C++ has templates, which makes it by far the better language.

**parksie** · Aug 27th, 2002, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Imogen
LOL
In all seriousness I like MS stuff, Unix and Linux.

I just think that in all reality MS has brought computing forward in leaps and bounds.

You cant deny that

Imogen

Well...they've made it more accessible to normal people, but by doing so they've put it back by a good few years

Whether that makes any difference is almost a moot point, since I'm not a normal person, and use whatever the standard is. If hardware vendors decide to concentrate on Linux, then I can effortlessly migrate over; not a problem for me as long as the OS that's standard actually works...

**Aerials** · Aug 27th, 2002, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by parksie
Nooooo......evil M$ lover!!! BURN HER!!!!!!

Heh, kidding -- I use Windows at home for normal use, but most of my development is on Linux Use Solaris and Irix at work, much more fun than Windows

yes... choose your OS on how fun it is

**snakeeyes1000** · Aug 27th, 2002, 05:12 PM

this whole debate is pointless. We all know that MASM will always be the best~

**beachbum** · Aug 27th, 2002, 05:35 PM

More importantly, we have a woman from Switzerland called Imogen and Jamie is nowhere to be seen

**Zaei** · Aug 27th, 2002, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by snakeeyes1000
this whole debate is pointless. We all know that MASM will always be the best~

Cant template in MASM either...

Z.

**plenderj** · Aug 28th, 2002, 07:03 AM

hello

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