Hard Code Everything!

[macai]

I'm thinking about writing a text editor, that is truly hard coded.
This meaning, the text box will be hard coded (no controls),
EVERYTHING! Even the KEYDOWN AND KEYUP EVENTS! I just want
\to see if i have the technical knowledge to do something like this.
Should i attempt to do this just to see if i can?

[macai]

NOTE: I should be back on this forum in like, 12-14 hours, OK? So
just keep the thread alive for me, please.

[swatty]

Do it.
Try it out, so you'll see how technical you are.

But try it yourself, don't get over here to let others do the coding for you.

[macai]

Originally posted by swatty
Do it.
Try it out, so you'll see how technical you are.

But try it yourself, don't get over here to let others do the coding for you.

Of course not. The only thing ill allow myself to use is a form. lol

[Shawn N]

My understanding of "hard coding" in the programming sense is that variables have literal assigned values instead of ones that are computed.

Like if I assign a string variable the value "hi" then "hi" has been hard coded into my program.

To me it seems you're attempting to dynamically create controls and base the events off a subclassing event handler (that's what you're going to have to do, at least, if I understand what you're trying to do).

[Megatron]

It'll be a lot easier for you to do this in C/C++. In order to get the API's all you need is

#include <windows.h>

With VB you need

Public Declare Function/Const...
etc.

for every function/constant and UDT!

[Megatron]

It'll be a lot easier for you to do this in C/C++. In order to get the API's all you need is

#include <windows.h>

With VB you need

Public Declare Function/Const...
etc.

for every function/constant and UDT!

[PT Exorcist]

agree, with vb it gonna be hellhard to do that

[BuggyProgrammer]

you don't even need a form. just use sub main as the start up in a module. use createwindow to make controls.

[macai]

Originally posted by Megatron
It'll be a lot easier for you to do this in C/C++. In order to get the API's all you need is

#include <windows.h>

With VB you need

Public Declare Function/Const...
etc.

for every function/constant and UDT!

What im trying to do is learn the way of C++ with VB. What i
mean by this, is, im preparing to learn C++ going byt he fact that
you have to write EVERYTHING! I'll learn total independance from
controls etc first, then ill learn the C++ syntax\code. Is this an
appropriate aproach to going low level?

[macai]

Is what i posted above a good way to learn low lvl stuff?

[Shawn N]

API Form

Here's something to get you started.

[Mc Brain]

Originally posted by macai
Is what i posted above a good way to learn low lvl stuff?

As far as I now, C is not low level... but medium level. If you want to learn low level, then you should be reading about Assembler.

[BuggyProgrammer]

why don't you just LEARN c++ instead of doing it in VB to learn how c++ works?

[Machaira]

Have to agree. If you want to learn C++, just learn it. Don't try to do things in VB that are not meant to be done. That's just strange. C++ isn't that hard to learn the basics of. After that, just start experimenting..

[Sastraxi]

This can be done in VB, and it has been before. Even if it was unknown territory, I say go for it. You've gotta accept a challenge

[Arc]

Umm.. isnt this chit chat?!? And a Moderator even posted in it!! Whats this place coming to?

[MidgetsBro]

It's not chit chat. He is talking about writing a text editor in VB, hence it goes into the General VB forum... now if there were a forum called The Text Editor forum, then he should be posting there, but he's not.

I'd have to agree with almost everyone else here, and tell you to just make it in C++ from the start. I personally don't know C++, and I would love to learn it, but never have any thing to program in C++ to learn. Books are too expensive for me.

[DiGiTaIErRoR]

Sounds like a lot of work. I also think you should just dive into C++, or VC++. They have a wizard that creates controls for you(creates the code behind them, and lets you adjust/create/destroy them visually). It's pretty straight forward.

[macai]

Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
Sounds like a lot of work. I also think you should just dive into C++, or VC++. They have a wizard that creates controls for you(creates the code behind them, and lets you adjust/create/destroy them visually). It's pretty straight forward.

The thing is, im not using any controls. Im using a form with lines and Print functions...no controls.

[Illspirit]

well i'm no c++ master, but i dont think it uses lines and print methods, so whats the point?

it uses API to create windows and stuff, so if you ARE going to do this then use the API or it seems even more pointless. But like everyone else says just dive into c++

[Arc]

Hes running a poll to see if people think he should attempt something. That isnt a VB question that is chit chat.

[numtel]

j/k bout my answer to your poll, i thought the second one was more fun

just use the createwindowex method and subclass the controls you make, it's very easy, just like win32asm. nothing fancy. even easier since you can use vb's file funcctions instead of writing them in asm.

[snakeeyes1000]

To actually recreate the functionality of a textbox from lines and code you would be forced to use very low level things to get any speed at all. There is no way using the bulky API's and especially VB's to try to make your own.