Networking Help

**308holes** · Jul 28th, 2002, 06:14 PM

Ok I just got a IBOOk with OSX and i want to network it with my WinXP Pro Pc can anyone help me wikth this i have never networked anything....

I have the Cables and the Card that are needed I just dont know how to set it up ??

**Pc_Madness** · Jul 29th, 2002, 12:57 AM

Well I don't think it would have been a good idea to Network an IBook with a PC on your first go.

**plenderj** · Jul 29th, 2002, 02:36 AM

First make sure TCP/IP is installed on both machines.
Give them seperate, but very similar IPs, eg:

192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2

Now. Regarding the cables.
If its a "cross-over" cable you have, then plug the cable from one card to another.
Otherwise, its a normal network cable ("patch lead").
You'll need to plug from each network card into a hub/switch.

**308holes** · Jul 29th, 2002, 03:16 AM

Yes im useing a Cat5 cable the PC has the Network Card and the ibook has one built in to it i pluged in the cables and inouted the ip on the ibook but i couldnt find and thing or find any way to see that it was connected anyone know where i can get step by step instructions or live help

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**plenderj** · Jul 29th, 2002, 03:21 AM

Try to ping each system from the other

**308holes** · Jul 29th, 2002, 04:06 AM

Ok they are talking to each other but when i try to connect to the pc with the mac it tells me that their are no files being shared wich is not true i can see that packets are being sent to the pc but i dont know know " Should of got a Dell lol"

Anyone ?

**plenderj** · Jul 29th, 2002, 04:10 AM

Just because they're communicating doesn't mean that there are files shared.
On your windows machine :

Start > settings > control panel > network
Make sure the "File & Printer Sharing" service is installed.
If not, install it.

Then go into windows explorer or my computer, right click on a folder or drive, select Sharing, then share it.
Then from the other machine, try browsing to \\computername

**Pc_Madness** · Jul 29th, 2002, 10:30 PM

Do u want to share an internet connection??

Is it possible with ICS???

**Sastraxi** · Jul 29th, 2002, 10:48 PM

Yeah, but does OSX read the NTFS filesystem? If you didn't select otherwise, that's probably what you're using on XP. If so, then it may not be possible to network it (although this may be false, operating systems like Mandrake Linux (8.2) can READ NTFS partitions but not write.

**JoshT** · Jul 30th, 2002, 03:25 PM

OSX does not need any NTFS support to do Windows File Sharing - it's a network protocol, like FTP or HTTP, not a file system.

Also, a Linux kernel can be compiled to support the NTFS file system. However, Red Hat does not compile the support in. I have had no problem using the "smbclient" program on my Red Hat based laptop at work to transfer files to and from my Windows 2000 Pro Desktop. It's on a full-fledged Windows Domain, even.

**Sastraxi** · Jul 30th, 2002, 04:22 PM

Ahh... okay then.

**Pc_Madness** · Jul 30th, 2002, 09:03 PM

Isn't NTFS a fileing system used by Win XP?? Not a protocol...

**plenderj** · Jul 31st, 2002, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Isn't NTFS a fileing system used by Win XP?? Not a protocol...

Yep NTFS is a file system, in much the same way as FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32 are, but it has a lot more features.
Basically over a network, it doesnt matter what file system a computer is running for another computer to view its files etc.

Its down to the communications protocols on the computers to transmit the data.
Simplest example of this is using Telnet or FTP.
Your computer is running Windows, but the server could be running Windows, Unix, Linux, Novell etc.

It doesnt matter though, because the server is presenting its data in a generic fashion.

**Pc_Madness** · Jul 31st, 2002, 04:25 AM

Sorrry, it just looked like he was implying that NTFS was a protocol, but after re-reading...I think I follow

**308holes** · Jul 31st, 2002, 10:24 AM

Ok a little off topic here........

I have Files that are being shared but i can access them i have tryed everything i know any that you have told me but no luck i have over 1gig of data that im shareing and it still says that it can connect to the network because their are no files being shared?

**JoshT** · Jul 31st, 2002, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Sorrry, it just looked like he was implying that NTFS was a protocol, but after re-reading...I think I follow

Sorry, I was a little unclear. Windows File Sharing is the protocol, also called SMB (Server Message Block) sometimes.

**308holes** · Aug 1st, 2002, 12:17 PM

ok back on topic here anyone have step by step instructions or if you realy knwo how to do this IM me or E-mail me the instructions please

**MidgetsBro** · Aug 1st, 2002, 01:15 PM

Can OS X see a windows network? I thought you had to have special software on an Apple machine to see Windows networks. Or did they build this in to the OS with X?

**JoshT** · Aug 1st, 2002, 01:56 PM

Yes, you need a client program that speaks the Windows protocols, just like you need a web browser (or whatever) to talk to a web server.

**Pc_Madness** · Aug 2nd, 2002, 02:33 AM

Well... I've only seen a Mac connected a network with a PC via ... it was either a Router or Switch.

But that was in a picture....

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