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    Second IP Address

    Is there anyway to generate a second IP address from either a DUN or DSL?

    If so, how?

    Trying to run two separate programs from the same client with only one ISP such that each is on a separate IP Address.

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    I'm a little confused at this, if you only have one ISP connected to the net, then surely you only have one IP Address supplied?

    I need read some info a little while ago on a software product called ghostsurf which roots all you internet traffic through a virtual proxy server. You might be able to acheive what you are trying with this as it creates a virtual IP address and well as your real one.

    http://www.davecentral.com/projects/...f/?topic=29,61
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    Thanks punkpie_uk

    Will look into it.

    BTW in searching google after post, they have a hardware box that sits between the firewall and router that will generate multiple IP addresses. Catch is -- they want $20,000 for it.

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    sounds good... shame about the price
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    One more question:

    Using Internet Explorer. I have both Scripting and ActiveX controls turned off. Unfortuantely, the default is Yes, so I get prompted all the time.

    Anyway you know in IE to establish the default as "No" for these options so I don't have to subclass IE or use another browser?

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    If you want to use more then one computer on your dsl/cable etc. and your isp only provides you with 1 ip address then you need to use NAT (network address translation) you can either buy a router that supports NAT (a small list of supporting devices at end of post) or you can set up your own proxy/router here is how

    Step 1.
    Get a computer w/ 2 network cards & a hub/switch

    Step 2.
    Get the software you need.
    Windows 2000 + XP + ME all come with software built in that will setup internet connection sharing for you (what this is is one computer will act as a gateway for the rest of the computers, other computers connect to it and it connects to your isp all trafic goign to the internet goes through it and uses its ip address)

    Tutorial for Windows
    For XP
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...orking/ics.asp
    For ME
    Couldn't find anything at end of post there is a little bit to help you out if you use windows ME
    For 2000 Server +
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...RRAS-Ch2_8.htm
    For 2000 Pro
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...share_conn.htm


    Step 2. - No windows
    Get and install Linux and read the nat part or read part 1 and 2 and the nat part to setup a NAT gateway thingy on a old pos computer with just a floppy drive

    Part 1 of tutorial
    http://networking.earthweb.com/netos...107911,00.html
    Part 2 of tutorial
    http://networking.earthweb.com/netos...141271,00.html

    The NAT Part known as IP Masquerade to the linux world
    http://www.e-infomax.com/ipmasq/about.html

    *** Special Note ***
    the related articles section at the end of each tutorial offer greate information on some of the topics disscussed in this tutorial

    *** Windows ME ***
    Bear with me I have only used Windows ME and I got rid of it as fast as I installed it

    This is actualy really easy but I may not give compleatly correct instructions so if something I say is not correct please just use the Help or your best judgment.

    on the the computer with the internet connection duble click on the My Network Places(think thats what it is called) on your desktop on the left there should be something along time lines of "Network Setup Wizard" or "Setup a home or small office network" now here is the easy part select this computer is directly connected to the internet blah blah blah i think it asks if other computers get internet from this one but that might be part of the first choice if its not make sure u select it.
    now it should ask you for your internet connection pick wich one is connected to ur internet. when asked to. also make a network setup disk if asked it makes configuring your other computers simple. If this doesn't help I'm sure it is explained in the help files just click help and search for "internet connection sharing"

    Routers/switch with NAT, and the DON'T cost $20,000
    http://www.dlink.com/../../products/broadband/di604/ - this one is advertized at $49.99 @ http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?sku=D700-2050
    http://www.dlink.com/products/broadband/di701/
    http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...rid=20&grid=23
    http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=176&grid=23
    this one is cool it uses your home phone lines to connect pc instead of normal cable (special hardware for each computer is required when using your telephone jacks)

    other companies offer simular products but I didn't want to list them just go to any computer store and tell them that u want a "dls/cable router with NAT" or that "you want to use ur dls/cable on more then one computer but you only have 1 ip address"

    I really hope I didn't missunderstand what you were asking
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    Dork 1:

    THANKS!!! not only on my behalf but the forums.

    Lot to digest, so will take it one step at a time, but a great road map to follow.

    I saw you didn't mentioned all O/S except Win98, so assume not available?

    You understood correctly.

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    Win98 has no built in support for Internet Connection sharing (as the server but works as the client) how ever there is third party software such as wingate that will do the same thing as the stuff from ms in the other O/S. I have never used it and can't give any pointers for it but here is the addy for it

    http://www.wingate.com/
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    Re: Second IP Address

    Originally posted by dw85745
    Is there anyway to generate a second IP address from either a DUN or DSL?

    If so, how?

    Trying to run two separate programs from the same client with only one ISP such that each is on a separate IP Address.
    If this is for a Chat Program or something, u can connect using 127.0.0.1

    or via telnet,
    o localhost PORT

    That help?
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    Thanks for responding pc-madness.

    If you can show me a simple solution I'm ready to listen.

    Here's the problem.

    When you logon to your ISP through a DUN account your're assigned an IP address.

    If you then run a program (brower for example) it goes through this IP address. If you run a second program (say a VB program you've written) while your browser is still up it, goes through the same IP address.

    What I'm trying to do is show whoever is on the other end two different IP addresses, such that if I'm pinged from the first they get one address and if I'm pinged from the second they get a second address.

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    The only way to get to IP Address would be network them.... but it would still go through the one IP Address.

    My school apparently has dummy ip addresses, although I don't know how its setup....


    Other than that, its not possible to get to IP Address per computer, as its against the rules.....
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