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    Exclamation Is Visual Studio .NET Pro Academic any different from Visual Studio .NET Pro?

    Is there anything taken out of Visual Studio .NET Academic version? Or does it just have the academic stuff added.
    Also, I was wondering if the End User Liscence Agreement for the Academic version is any different and how?

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    As far as I an tell, the academic version only has things added. There's an extra Student Tools CD, in addition to the rest of the stuff.

    The CD's and box all have "Academic" written on them, but the software doesn't seem to have changed.

    When I got it, I sat down and read through the license (it's actually a booklet), and I didn't notice any extra restrictions on the actual use of the software. The only extra restriction appears to be that you have to be a "Qualified Educational User".

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    oh, yeah, and the splash screen you get when you load visual studio also says Academic on it...

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    Originally posted by Tygur
    When I got it, I sat down and read through the license (it's actually a booklet), and I didn't notice any extra restrictions on the actual use of the software. The only extra restriction appears to be that you have to be a "Qualified Educational User".
    You might want to check it out again. In the past with Academic license agreements, there was something in there that basically says you can't sell your apps that you create with it. I don't know if it is in this version, but it wouldn't hurt to do a double check.

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    I seriously doubt it as you are free to distribute apps written when using the free SDK. Why would you be limited when using a payed product???


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    Originally posted by hellswraith
    You might want to check it out again. In the past with Academic license agreements, there was something in there that basically says you can't sell your apps that you create with it. I don't know if it is in this version, but it wouldn't hurt to do a double check.
    That's why I read through it to begin with. I didn't find anything of the sort.

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    Cander: On my VS 6.0 Academic version, it stated that I couldn't sell any apps I created. That is why I stated what I did.

    The reason probably stemmed from the fact that I paid only 200 dollars for the full VS 6.0 because it was an academic version, and not the normal price of over 700 dollars. Other wise, why would anyone in their right mind pay more for the non-academic version?

    Like you said though, the SDK is free, so maybe the rules have changed. But look at these links:

    For the full version of VS.Net Professional Academic:
    http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ma...=win&qk_srch=&
    only 89.95.

    For the full version of VS.Net Professional non-academic version:
    http://www.aselectronics.com/as/prod...emNo=MS-VS2K2P
    723.00.

    You tell me what the better deal is? Why would anyone buy the non-academic version if there no difference in the licensing wording?

    Maybe the confusion comes from the fact that the .Net tools have two different "academic" definitions. I think there is a Academic version of VS.Net, and there is a Academic pricing for the VS.Net professional.....I don't know, just a little too confusing for myself. I just say be careful, and make sure you get what you want.

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    Originally posted by hellswraith
    You tell me what the better deal is? Why would anyone buy the non-academic version if there no difference in the licensing wording?
    Well, there is a difference. It does explicitly say in the license that only certain people may use the software.

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    Ok, so only students and faculty can buy and use it... take a cheap community college class for under 75 bucks, and you can now leagally use it to distribute apps? Hmmm, I would hope they have changed that, but seems unlikely to me.

    Someone that has the academic version would be really kind to post the eula. This topic could be settled then...lol.

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    I would rather not scan in all 7 (yes, 7) pages of the license agreement, plus an addendum. Unfortunately, I can't seem to be able to find it in an electronic format, either.

    I don't know if that cheap community college class would cut it (it might work, i just don't know), because there's a whole complicated definition for a "Qualified Educational User". The license says to contact microsoft to find out if you fit the description.

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    Perhaps so-called acedemics might not realise this but developers will buy the more expensive version because thats the one they should buy. You can't ever hope to make money as a software developer in a business if you unlawfully buy and use the acedemic version.
    "Thats a great product there. Think I'll buy it off you. Must have cost you alot to develop?"
    "Naw fiddled the acedemic version of the development software........... but I'm normally an honest guy, honest."

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    I had an academic version of Vb 5 and you couldnt make
    stand alone applications outside of the development environement,So You coulnt put copies on cd,s and distribute
    them.
    If you want something to make distributable copies that,s
    cheap the vb .net standard edition seems like a great deal.You
    have some limitations as far as control and class libraries but
    overall its very good.
    tonyf

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    Are you sure that was the academic version and not the Control Creation Edition, which was free and would only make OCX's? I'm just surprised.

    As for the Visual Studio .NET Academic version, it appears to be the Visual Studio .NET professional edition plus an extra Student Tools CD, which is exactly what it says on the side of the box.

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    You are right.It was the control creation addition.I guess
    you could go ahead and try using an academic version for
    commercial purposes but Microsoft is pretty funny about
    copyright laws,unfortunately.
    tonyf

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    I finally found the license agreement. The text file is attached to this message. Go ahead and read it.
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    I went through the EULA that was posted above, and I did not find any where that says that you can't sell software that you develope with it. But in order to use it you do have to be a "Qualified Educational User."

    I'm still going to try to find out more information...

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    Ya, I went through and didn't see anything like what was in my VS 6 academic version Eula. That is cool. I wonder though, if I bought it while going to school, then proceeded to use it when I finished school, would I be in violation of my agreement?...things to ponder...lol.

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    Ths reason is because .NET SDK is free. When you compile your application in Visual Studio, it still uses the same compiler frm SDK. That's why there are no restrictions any more. VB6 didn't have a stand alone compiler but rather vb6.exe was kind of both compiler and IDE.

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