CPU Upgrade

[Gaffer]

Do I need to buy a new mobo if I upgrade from Intel Pentium III to IV? (goddamn my hindsight skills if I do...)

[JoshT]

Yep - and to further complicate things, there's different versions of the P4 that uses different sockets. Then again, your P3 could be slot or socket...

[Gaffer]

The P3 is flipswitch (socket)

This inability to use the same mobo is a major drag for me because I upgraded my own PC from P3 to AMD XP 1800+ a few months ago. Win2K went into BSOD heaven and I ended up having to wipe a HDD and install XP
I now have to upgrade my missus' PC

[Ianpbaker]

al, there are quite a few good mobo/ proccessor deals going around at the moment, give me a shout if want

[JungleMan]

Yes you'll need a new board and CPU, heatsink, and most likely even RAM.

Not considering an Athlon? They don't have to be noisy.

Oh well..you can dig up a P4 board for under $100, 1.6Ghz CPU for $140 with the heatsink/fan, and some DDR RAM for $50 (256MB).

You can get Athlon boards for around $70, an XP1800 for about $110 with stock heatsink, and DDR would be the same price...

Your call...

[Ianpbaker]

Hello, my name is Justin and I have sold my soul to AMD

[chrisjk]

I think actually he works for them on a sales commission basis

[chrisjk]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
Oh well..you can dig up a P4 board for under $100, 1.6Ghz CPU for $140 with the heatsink/fan, and some DDR RAM for $50 (256MB).

You can get Athlon boards for around $70, an XP1800 for about $110 with stock heatsink, and DDR would be the same price...

Double all those prices, then convert to £, should be about the right figure when bought here

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by chrisjk
I think actually he works for them on a sales commission basis

No I don't, I just hate Intel

Intel continually screws over its consumers to this day and they always have. Big whoop, I don't care how high the 1.6A overclocks, the company behind the chip hasn't changed a damn bit. The chip they are selling for $150, at stock speeds, gets spanked by other $75 chips.

And Gaffer was hoping not to buy a new board so I thought he might want to save a little money on the upgrade...

Oh yeah...Simon's theory for UK pricing is to change the dollar sign to a pound sign (since $1 is 0.67 pounds)

[chrisjk]

err, joke dude

touchy!

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by chrisjk
err, joke dude

touchy!

OK...I was just explaining myself

[chrisjk]

furry muff

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
Oh yeah...Simon's theory for UK pricing is to change the dollar sign to a pound sign (since $1 is 0.67 pounds)

exactly, it should be less because £1 is worth more than $1...but it isn't; it's either the same or more

[numtel]

do english people have a pound sign on their keyboard or do they have to go into character map every time?

[chrisjk]

what do you reckon?

[HarryW]

Originally posted by numtel
do english people have a pound sign on their keyboard or do they have to go into character map every time?

We actually have keyboards laid out with the Korean alphabet, and we type in the characters we want by holding down alt and entering the unicode value for each one. Unless we're typing in Korean, of course.

[Gaffer]

Before this gets into another Intel vs AMD thread:

This issue here is not what flavour of CPU I want - as I have mentioned above, I built my own PC based on an AMD 1800+ XP processor, using Asus A7v 266e mobo and 512 DDR RAM - it's as quick as a teenage boy's hands during an episode of Buffy

My problem is that when I did this upgrade (from Intel P3 as it happens), I was running Win2K, and the new mobo and CPU caused me no ends of BSOD problems (havent the details here - I think the posts reside on amdmb.com). Had to format disks and install WinXP (which I rate highly)

So, as I am now upgrading Mrs gaffers PC, I somewhat naively believed that a mobo was for life, and the CPU could s.ot in nicely...

Can someon please recommend a nice easy mobo that will allow me to plug my new P4/AMD XP chip, plug in my IDE's and instantly recognise Win2K on the HDD....

Cheers m'dears

[Gaffer]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
And Gaffer was hoping not to buy a new board so I thought he might want to save a little money on the upgrade...

Thanks Justin It's not really a price thing, more of an inconvenience having to reinstall an OS every upgrade (I know you should clean out every so often, but it really is a pain...)

[JungleMan]

Usually when upgrading a motherboard it's an entirely different chipset so you'll need to reformat anyway.

The BSODs you got are normal.

What online stores are popular in the UK? I don't know what's available and what isn't.

[beasty1711]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk
and
http://www.coolcasemods.com

are pretty good onlince stores

[Gaffer]

I tend to use more generic sotres:

either
www.dabs.co.uk
or
www.simply.co.uk