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May 19th, 2002, 04:59 PM
#1
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Simple integration
How to solve
y ' (t) = (t - y) / 2
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May 20th, 2002, 02:18 AM
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You have to seperate the variables first so:
y*t = (t-y)/2
2y*t = t-y
2y+y = t/t
3y = 1
After integrating
3y*dy/dx = t
dy/dx = t/3y
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May 20th, 2002, 07:45 AM
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thanx but I didn't really understand how u did it
BTW. y'(t) == derivetive
just 2 check u got it right
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May 20th, 2002, 09:53 AM
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nad_scorp:
You can't solve that equation by separation of variables. You need to use an integration factor. These factors are used for equations of the form:
dy/dx = f(x,y)
Rewrite the equation like this
dy/dt +y/2 = t/2
By examining the equation we see the integration factor is given by
exp(Integral(1/2 dt))
which is. exp(0.5 t)
Note: This factor works for cases when f(x,y) is linear in y. If it wasn't you would need a different integration factor.
Anyway, if we multiply the differential equation by our integration factor we get
d/dt[y exp(0.5t)] = 0.5t*exp(0.5t)
We can now solve this directly since the variables are now separated. You'll need to use integration by parts. When you're done you should get:
y(t) = t + (y0 + 2)*exp(-0.5*t) - 2
where y0 is the value of y when t is 0
Hope that helps. You might want to check out a book on ordinary differential equations.
Last edited by wy125; May 20th, 2002 at 09:06 PM.
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May 20th, 2002, 11:25 AM
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Another way to do it
Okay, I thought about the problem some more and it can be solved another way without using an integration factor.
The original equation is
dy/dt = (t - y)/2
If we let
u = t - y
then
du/dt = 1 - dy/dt
using this we get the following new equation
1 - du/dt = u/2
du/dt = 1 - u/2 = (2 - u)/2
This new equation is separable and can be integrated as usual. You'll get the same answer that was found using the integration factor after substituting back in for y. Generally speaking, I prefer the integrating factor, but it's up to you.
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May 21st, 2002, 06:07 AM
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