Israel?

[TysonLPrice]

Yeah, but what is the rest of the world supposed to do on this one? I honestly can't think of much we can do without collectively punishing the populace of one side or the other when they're not really the ones to blame.

Israeli's are a hated minority in their own country and within the wider region so if their regime collapses the things that Hamas did a week ago will look like a Sunday picnic. (Don't forget that the stated aim of Hamas is not the protection of Palestine, it's the eradication of Israel.) But what the Israeli state has done over the last 5 decades is apartheid at the very least and ethnic cleansing at the worst.

If the rest of the world wants to intervene we're presented with a choice of which set of absolute scumbags to back unless we position ourselves as Neutral Mediators. And that doesn't seem feasible when one side doesn't have a centralised leadership to engage with and the other is a far right party bent on local domination at any measure. Neither side wants mediation.

And, in the meantime the people from both sides get to soak up all the pain while their leaders posture. It's a wholly depressing spectacle.

Agreed...if it was easy, or even doable, it would have happened already. Just my opinion, the Palestinians got a raw deal seventy some years ago and have been treated badly ever since. That same thing has happened to indigenous populations throughout time. What is going on now doesn't compare to say, the American Indians, but the concept is the same. They will be relegated to hardly a society.

But I'm not oblivious to the other side of the issue. I guess that's what makes it hard to come together.