Quote Originally Posted by baka View Post

the problem is when its forced on you. when its mandate and they don't give you a choice.
or when theres a movement, that blocks you, punish you, when you don't want to comply.
There are some serial killers who would totally agree with you. They just want to kill women, but they aren't given the freedom to do so.

The same case could be made for various racists, anti-semites, Republicans, Democrats, and so on. The truth is that none of us are free or ever want to be free. We just don't notice the chains that we don't mind wearing. We only notice the chains that we do mind. You give up freedom to live well, to have family, to have love, to have the computer you are reading this on. You don't object to most of that, though. Heck, you might not even notice it. And yet you complain bitterly when something else is forced on you.

Everybody draws that line in a different place. Just reading through the posts on here it is clear that you all want the line to be drawn in some different place. Kind of reminds me of the fight over a new VB6, especially since it's some of the same characters all wanting a new VB6 and all insisting that it has/doesn't have, a different set of features.

One thing about con artists is that they take advantage of the trust we have in one another. You will never be conned if you never trust anybody. You will also be miserable, paranoid, bitter and desperate. Frankly, it is better to be conned than be a person who can't be. Therefore, you have to accept that you will occasionally be conned, as it's the price you pay for being happy.