hmmmm, i have read 2 straight pages on the post "Evolution for those who care" and i wanted to post my 2 cents worth here since the other post is way too long.

ok first off i do not beleive in god, and i hope sometime in the near future everyone else will drop religion as i think it gets in the way of science and many other things.

hmmm where to begin? i dont think we were created by random, we evolved out of who knows what by a long period of time. things evolve because the environment changes around them so they must adapt. im sure from whatever we proceeded from, that animal had to change its life styles to survive, and after a few thousand or maybe million years we evolved finally. i do think it is a slow and gradual process, and mutations dont really effect evolution because when a "mutant" animal mates with a normal animal, the baby still has a chance of being normal, but if wide spread mutation occures, than the whole species can be drastically altered.

i also think every single person who posted their thoughts about science and everything, is most likely wrong because time and technology will advance to be so great that it will answer so many of our discussions in this forum. there is no such thing as "random", something always happens because of something else. its sort of like that newton theory "for every action there is a equal reaction" or something like that. meaning when something in the universe blows up, such as a star, then it effects the surrounding planets, then those planets effect all the life forms on it and so on, it is a chain reaction.

i know what im saying sounds weird, its because i really suck at explaining and when i went back to read what i wrote, it didn't come out right so please bare with me.

i dont understand how people beleive in god. how can a "spirit" just wave his/her/it's hand and create something? that seems like the stupidest thing humans have ever thought up, there has to be chemical reactions, fusion/fission, etc etc to create whole planets and solar systems, not a wave of some non-existing entities hand. i know you guys are saying "how can you prove there is no god?", well obviously i can't, but using my common sense, i think there isn't a god.

back to the thing about randomness, for something to be TOTALLY random, there has to be NOTHING effecting the outcome of the thing being random. meaning no outside force has meddled with the outcome, which is (in my idea) impossible. but again all of my thoughts (and your guys thoughts) will be proven wrong or correct as time reveals more secrets of our surrounding.

about AI, i think it is VERY possible to create a totally sentient being. not now, but soon enough (if we dont kill each other off) we will find out how to, i am so sure about this, although i cant prove it. we will indoubtably create a machine NOT greater than us, but can think for itself to some extent. i cant say when this will happen, but im sure if our human race can live another tousand years, we will be doing some unimanginable things. to us it seems almost impossible to create something that will react to its surrounding without any outside input, but then how do we think for ourselves? once we firguer out how our brain actually works, all we will have to do is recreat it to some extent in machine form and it would be able to think for itself. as of right now, an AI is a series of if's and then staements. "IF this happens THEN do this", and the best AI in the world is just a HUGE library of IF and THEN statements, thats all. it just has so many if statements that it can react to many of its normal surroundings, but if it is put into foreign surroundings where there are no IF and THEN statements to be true or false, than this machine will not function as intended, but a true AI will be able to think for itself. I consider current AI to be first generation AI, when a machine will be able to create it own IF and THEN statements without a programmers input, then i would consider that second generation AI.

also about a "creation" can never be greater then its "creator". i think that is false, but there is some truth to it. a "creation" can not be created greater than the creator but it will have the potential to be greater, if the creator was good enough to create a sentient AI. but a creator CANNOT create something more intellegent then intself on purpose, only by ACCIDENT can it give a future to the creation which would make it smarter than him.

ok im very tired so ill stop blaberring now. BTW nothing came out as i intended it to, i just cant explain things worth sh*t. all that stuff i said sounds like 1sy grader talk, if you would talk to me in person, i would seem a lot smarter but all that stuff i said is really confusing i know. i just cant explain things really well...

please dont flame me for anything i have said