Has anyone here ever tried Just Basic? I found it to be a great compiler for a beginning programmer to learn on. It teaches BASIC syntax, plus it comes with a very good tutorial and a free form gui creator that will have even a total beginner writing windows programs in no time. Best of all, its free. Also, there is an extensive online community devoted to the use of Just Basic as a programming tool. I am a member of that community, and I have written numerous apps with Just Basic, and frequent the forums quite often. While it lacks the power of api calls, it has a very good turtle and sprite engine, which can be fun to use. For the hobbyist or beginning programmer, it should be considered a valuable programming tool. If you are interested, you can visit the Brian M's Just BASIC Site link in my sig, it will take you to the download page. I really have fun writing programs with this compiler. But, as this is only my opinion, maybe you should check it out and form your own.