Hi Guys .. googled it but cant find exactly .. maybe someone has a hidden MS link. .. basically when using the CALL statement and passing a control such as a form or textbox you need to use Call mySub(me) or mySub me .. but cant use mySub (me) .. somnething to do with default properites of the control being allocated to memory ... any ideas.. just want an exact explanation to make some sense of it .. particularly Form related .. thanks ..

Rory