I'm writing a program to deal with another necessary, but very anoying program. This annoying program I DID NOT write. This annoying program is very resiliant and very well made. It has no title bar, it can't be minimized or moved off screen. I can't load it with a Shell vbHidden either. (Because I can't just run the program hidden, then close the program and reload it visible without loosing valuable data.) It isn't even run from the executing program, instead you double click on one exe, and it loads from another exe somewhere else. Now what I want to do is be able to use this program, but not have to look at it. I can't minimize it, and I can't figure out how to hide it. My last option is CAN I WRITE A PROGRAM IN WICH THIS PUNK PROGRAM LOADS INTO MY FORM? IN ESSENCE TRAPPING THIS PUNK PROGRAM INTO SOMETHING I CAN DEAL WITH!! How do I do that? Where do I start? Any other Ideas? I am stumped