Well, I started out programming visual Basic when I was 13. I had taught myself through crappy library books LOL. Right now, I am in the process of learning c++, and I have some experience in QBASIC. (I learned VBasic before QBasic-----I am such an idiot....) I have tried making money through VBasi by selling programs of the net( I am almost done with a program that allows the user to make screensavers(.scr) by choosing frames , background sound, framerate. etc. It also allows the user to use an avi and turn it into a screensaver. I plan to make some money on it by selling it to a company, but if I have the time, I shall build a "piece of junk" web page and try to give out shareware versions.....