Ok, I update a website from time to time with 2 other guys. 2 of us use Notepad to update it, the other one uses Dreamweaver. I've spent a lot of time sectioning off the code for easy maintenance purposes. It's wonderfully easy to update in Notepad this way. However, when the file is brought in to Dreamweaver, it gets all scrambled; erasing line breaks, adding unncecessary <FONT> tags (among others), etc. When I open the file after Dreamweaver's had it's evil way with it, I need to spend 5-10 minutes moving stuff back around. NOW, here's the dilemma. The 2 of us Notepad guys are a bit annoyed with this because it's causing extra work. The Dreamweaver guy could care less what the code looks like, as long as the end result is good. As a programmer, I HATE that way of thinking. He's of the thinking that "Hey, that's why they make these web programs, so you don't have to mess with the code." Maybe I'm stubborn but I don't like the extra crap that Dreamweaver adds to the code. I hate comprising the integrity of my code and not being able to associate a tag with a purpose. But that's neither here nor there, should we continue to waste our time bitching about the ****ty-ness of Dreamweaver or should the other guy suck it up and learn a bit of programming?