Arbiter & Cafeenman

You two just don't get it. The government (in the USA) has given it's self the right to just detain people without any reason and they can strip away their constitutional rights so that they have no recourse to legal representation and the right to defend themselves.

Step away from the current case and think about the wider implication for society at large.

I see you're now happy for the government to just tell you that someone is bad, lock them away and throw away the key. The trial is the fairest and most objective way to determine someone's guilt. The government are saying that they don't want their suspects to be be judged fairly, they want us to just take their word on it.

What is it exactly that makes America the country with the most freedoms when your government can just come along, arrest you, strip away your rights and detain you for as long as they like? If you were in that situation, wouldn't you like some means or some avenue to pursue in order to establish your innocence? Ofcourse it's ok when it's happening to him.