What shall i throw to Bill Gates..

[kayoca]

4 December here in the Netherland Bill Gates is coming and will speak to us about something.
But i realy want to throw something at him when he is talking.
So what shall i throw?

[Ianpbaker]

window 3.11 disks. as there were about 7-8 of them, you'll have a higher percentage of hittting him.

[kayoca]

A balloon with water is very heavy to throw far. but i like the idea.. heheh!

[HarryW]

A grenade?

[InvisibleDuncan]

How about some apostrophes? Looks like you've got a few going spare.

[Arbiter]

A live Platypus

[Bonker Gudd]

Nick Faldo

[SurfDemon]

Money. Thats what I've been throwing at him for years...

SD

[parksie]

Originally posted by SurfDemon
Money. Thats what I've been throwing at him for years...

SD

Funny that, I haven't

How about a custard pie?

http://www.parksie.uklinux.net/pie.mpg

[crptcblade]

Originally posted by parksie
http://www.parksie.uklinux.net/pie.mpg

I wonder what happened to that guy. Bill probably had him thrown into the bottomless pit at MS HQ

[chrisjk]

Throw a bunch of papers at him saying "These are My Documents"

[crptcblade]

I would throw a bag and ask him to put some money in and throw it back. Just to see if he would.

[JoshT]

A stuffed penguin.

[chrisjk]

Alternatively, pull a moonie and shout "this is My Arse!"

[BG]

I vote you give him a wedgie, and ask him if ir reminds him of highschool.

[thinktank2]

Whomever the one that..

1. Doesn't want to be a millionaire
2. Won't act in the same way given a profiting business to manage.

Can throw the first pie at him.

Every business aims in becoming a monopoly...only a few succeed.
The rest of them indulge in unfair propaganda.

The very purpose of a business is to make money or otherwise they would call it community service. So before monkeying around with a pie, think ! put yourself in the same position as Bill Gates. At least Bill donates to charity.

If you are still adamant at taking a shot at him...do me a favour - throw a pie on these guys face..




[ The Plot to Get Bill Gates ]

[parksie]

Is that Larry Ellison?

[thinktank2]

Left: Scott McNealy CEO Sun Microsystems.
Right: Larry Ellison CEO Oracle.

[parksie]

I just re-read the title.

What shall i throw to Bill Gates..

I'd throw him a Windows XP CD and hope he throws one back with a real OS on it

[chrisjk]

Throw a large wet mackeral at him shouting "My Fish"

[crptcblade]

Throw a doctored-up DNA test to him and shout "My dad!!"

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by thinktank2
ranting deleted

Oooo... it's Play-Nice-With-Others Man. Little Mr. I-Wanna-Suck-Bill's.

Look, we don't hate him because he has a profitable business. He hate him because his business it based on selling you the worst junk for the most money. It is run with the same mindset as a drug lord. It is a company built on stealing technologies that it wants, hiding technologies that threaten it, and destroying companies that could lead the populous to think.

I say throw something that will really get him upset. Throw him source code. Either OpenSource source code, or source code to anything that performs better than it's MS counterpart.

throw a pie on these guys face..

McNealy? Sorry, Sun innovates. It may be expensive, but it works, and works hard. And Sun invented Java. Sun is pushing the "write once, run anywhere" mindset. And even if Java may not be mature enough, yet, that mindset threatens MS. MS knows this, and has tried time and again to undermind it. That is why MS was kicked off the Java project.

As to Ellison. *shrug* Feel free. I could find better targets, though. Like maybe that Aussie who heads Ford.

[crptcblade]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
I could find better targets, though. Like maybe that Aussie who heads Ford.

Or the tyrannical president of a pie company. Just to throw a little poetic justice into the mix.

[CiberTHuG]

Of the pie company? Who? Betty Crocker? :P

[parksie]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
McNealy? Sorry, Sun innovates. It may be expensive, but it works, and works hard. And Sun invented Java. Sun is pushing the "write once, run anywhere" mindset. And even if Java may not be mature enough, yet, that mindset threatens MS. MS knows this, and has tried time and again to undermind it. That is why MS was kicked off the Java project.

I agree...Sun actually makes good stuff Why else would I choose Solaris over linux

[crptcblade]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
Of the pie company? Who? Betty Crocker?

Yeah,yeah...just yell out "You call this flakey crust?!?!?", and wham, right in the face with one of them lemon-type pies.

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by parksie
I agree...Sun actually makes good stuff Why else would I choose Solaris over linux

Uhm... because you have gobs of money?

[parksie]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
Uhm... because you have gobs of money?

Check out Sun's website...look at the "free Solaris" programme

[crptcblade]

Originally posted by kayoca
But i realy want to throw something at him when he is talking.
So what shall i throw?

Not to get back on topic or anything, but you could go Seven on him and throw his wife's severed head in a box...

(note to Billl's attorneys : No real threats were intended or implied by the above statement)

[parksie]

Originally posted by crptcblade
Not to get back on topic or anything, but you could go Seven on him and throw his wife's severed head in a box...

(note to Billl's attorneys : No real threats were intended or implied by the above statement)

That makes his sin greed

[thinktank2]

by Ciberthug
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Originally posted by thinktank2
ranting deleted
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Well it's strange that you can delete my *rant* {Which seems to be nonsensical to you} but you can't stop buying MS products {Which again is nonsense to you}.
Instead of throwing something on a person to express your displeasure about his company, stop buying his products. That's the only decent way I can think of as your best answer.

You can't type "I Hate MICROSOFT" in Microsoft Word and feel satisfied about that.

If you think microsoft is a thief ...good..
But you need more pies 'cos there are hundreds of such thieves to throw at. Do it if you have no other job..or if you are interested in cheap publicity throw them at Bill Gates.

[CiberTHuG]

*looks around* Yeah, I haven't bought any MS products.

Look, MS underminds portablity. They can't release a product that is compliant to any given standard without releasing proprietary extensions. They have aggressively tried to destroy free competition. They have paid OEM vendors to uninstall free, but competitive software.

I've never been one to say MS is a monopoly, there is competition. But MS has been guilty of gross anti-competitive practices. MS has not contributed anything to computing. They have not innovated any technology, and their mindset of selling software like it is narcotics has done nothing but to string out the AOLized population and set back modern computing by 7 to 15 years.

Simply put, if there were never a Bill Gates, the world would've been a better place.

[chrisjk]

Originally posted by CiberTHuG
Simply put, if there were never a Bill Gates, the world would've been a better place.

Nah, I mean, who would there be for all the crackpots to diss and curse till the cows come home.

[crptcblade]

Originally posted by chrisjk
Nah, I mean, who would there be for all the crackpots to diss and curse till the cows come home.

There's always Walter Kronkite

[thinktank2]

Well... you are always to express your resentment about some product by means that is not targeted at a particular person. Remember Bill doesn't go around making software for his company. He is the kind of guy my company will like to have as an executive. People confuse between the business style and the product quality. If you are not satisfied with business style that doesn't have to stop you from liking their product. If it's there product that's not satisfactory...stop buying it.

Everybody's perspective is different. I think windows 98 is pretty good and worth what I payed for. I use REDHAT Linux 7.1 and Mandrake Linux 8.1 { on two different machines}. I think except
for the consoles the GUI desktops KDE and GNOME are really crappy. They often crash. What do I do ? Find the CEO's of REDHAT and MANDRAKE and throw eggs at them ??? But I can ask for a refund.

MS {may be } didn't do anything for computing..But with their *crappy* software they built a strong following for the PC {Which is why linux is now for the PC }

Simply put, if there were never a Bill Gates, the world would've been a better place.

I can also say...simply put there would be a better medium if there wasn't an Internet.

{My spec:

Machine1 : Intel 800Mhz, 640 MB RAM, WINDOWS 98, 640MB FIXED SWAP, Date Last Crashed: 7-8 Months ago.

Same machine another partition
Mandrake Linux 8.1 , 2GB swap partition, Crash frequency: 2/day

}

[thinktank2]

Microsoft can't overcome ADOBE with a Microsoft phostoshop...because it a superb application that has no peers.
They did business on the same earth as microsoft is and are still dominant in desktop publishing Industry.

{Bottom line : IF you have a quality product you will win no mater whoever is the monopoly.}

[HarryW]

Originally posted by thinktank2
{Bottom line : IF you have a quality product you will win no mater whoever is the monopoly.}

Corel Wordperfect. Better than Word in my opinion, and has been for a very long time. It hasn't won.

What the hell are you doing to Linux to make it crash twice a day? I've had KDE crash a few times, but it's never been much of a problem since I can use another computer on the network to SSH in and kill whatever process is locked up.

What did you mean by "I can also say...simply put there would be a better medium if there wasn't an Internet" ?

with their *crappy* software they built a strong following for the PC {Which is why linux is now for the PC }

Uhh... Linux would be for whatever platforms were popular. There are Linux binaries available for all sorts of platforms, and you can always get the source and compile it yourself which means you can build your own binaries on any platform with an ANSI C compiler. I don't follow your logic.

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by thinktank2
Well... you are always to express your resentment about some product by means that is not targeted at a particular person. Remember Bill doesn't go around making software for his company. He is the kind of guy my company will like to have as an executive. People confuse between the business style and the product quality. If you are not satisfied with business style that doesn't have to stop you from liking their product. If it's there product that's not satisfactory...stop buying it.

I read that three times and I can't make any sense of it.

Everybody's perspective is different. I think windows 98 is pretty good and worth what I payed for. I use REDHAT Linux 7.1 and Mandrake Linux 8.1 { on two different machines}. I think except
for the consoles the GUI desktops KDE and GNOME are really crappy. They often crash. What do I do ? Find the CEO's of REDHAT and MANDRAKE and throw eggs at them ??? But I can ask for a refund.

But ofcourse, it is free, so you won't get a refund.

MS {may be } didn't do anything for computing..But with their *crappy* software they built a strong following for the PC {Which is why linux is now for the PC }

They built a strong following. So did AOL and Ford. And I'm sorry, but the best selling SUV on this planet is by far the worst. Following doesn't mean anything.

Also, what do you mean, "Linux is now for the PC". As opposed to? Linux was orginally written for the x86 architecture. It is the GNU foray into PCs. And it was not written because Linus was disgruntled with MS. Linus simply wanted GNU on a CISC machine (for whatever reason). Linux was born on the PC, not migrated to it. Linux's predecessors, Unix, GNU, BSD, were born on RISC platforms, and some of them have made transitions to PC simply because the hardware is cheap.

I can also say...simply put there would be a better medium if there wasn't an Internet.

Uhm... that is slightly different. If there was no MS there would be (and are) other companies. But Bill Gates is single handly responsible for holding back computing.

I just thought of a story that I should relate:

It will be long, so hold on...

[CiberTHuG]

If I get some details wrong, someone correct me, please.

Some proffesors at CERN made HTTP and HTML so they could easily share documents. The idea caught on and a few students at BYU made Mosaic, the worlds first, wide-spread, GUI web browser.

MS eventually made IE, and the world hummed along.

At this point, I'm rooting for Mosaic. It was first, and it is available on more platforms than IE.

These students graduate and start a company and create another web browser, and a web server. They give away the browser for free and sell the server. It is the idea that we can't sell lemonade if no one has cups, so give away the cups, sell the lemonade.

This company is Netscape, the browser is Navigator.

I'm still pulling for Netscape since they have more features, available for more platforms, and, in all honest, made the web what it is. Besides, why pay for IE?

Sun releases Java, which poineers their "Write Once, Run Anywhere" mindset. Netscape quickly changes the name of a scripting language they were writing, from LiveScript, to JavaScript. Their language embodies the idea from Sun. They want a scripting language that you can put on a web page and it will run on a browser, regardless of the platform.

They release their specs for JavaScript in the hopes that JavaScript will run regardless of the browser.

Again, I'm rooting for Netscape, since they innovated.

MS picks up JavaScript, but they obliquely diverge from Netscape's published standards. There are, in essence, two distinctly different JavaScripts. IE had already gained market share on Netscape if for no other reason but MS had stopped selling the browser and started bundling it with their OS.

Now that more and more pages are using the IE proprietary JavaScript, it makes Netscape look more and more like an inferior browser.

This isn't helped by several internal problems with Netscape, major bugs released, a whole release (version 5) scrapped, and their aquistion by AOL (/TimeWarner).

The W3C takes over setting the standard (Recommendations) for JavaScript, as well as the DOM. Their recommendations fall inline with MS proprietary extensions, giving MS the head start in being compliant.

Netscape releases a new browser, version 6. They drop the Navigator/Communicator name and simply call the product Netscape. And it is 100% compliant, with no extensions.

Wow... I had stopped using Navigator and Communicator. And now am getting into Opera and Konqueur, so I don't see the need to mess with Netscape, but... wow... no proprietary extensions.

MS releases their latest version of IE. They also maintian complaince. But, yes, Virginia... it has extensions. MS has even (attempted) to refuse to serve MSN to any non-IE 6 browser.

Well, I may not use Netscape, but damned if they still don't look like a much better company than MS will ever be.

They will eventually loose and die, which will again show that the best product/technology/company doesn't always win.

[CiberTHuG]

Originally posted by thinktank2
IF you have a quality product you will win no mater whoever is the monopoly.

Which is why we all drive Tuckers?