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    Arbiter this is what I got , it was during sound, i hear something than that stopped and that came white and crash.
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    Hehe cool, it's in French

    Have a look at mine, in Portuguese
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    DaoK,

    If you're using any of the latest versions, then Sentience will have created a file "C:\errors.txt".

    Could you post that up here please as it will tell me where Sentience is going wrong.

    Ta muchly!
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    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

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    Download my version of the DNA thingy. How I have mine set up, each number may have a creature associated with it. Then, each of those creatures would have certain compoments assoicated with it. You could also use the code as a binary number. Each bite (byte?, which ever is 2 hex digits (or 1)) respersents a componet section (arms, legs, head, ect) and then the value respents the vesion of that componet (for arms: human, robotic, machine gun). Now, I know those are sucky examples. By the way, this verson is coded from the previous versons, with modifications. (Such as there are 2 ways to chage the code, 1 place to read the code, 1 way to save/load codes.)

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    Gaming_World, Arb already said that he won't take code made by other people - so you're only wasting your time
    Code:
    Temp = Me.GetIQ()
    'Error 9: Overflow
    'DON'T PANIC! :eek:

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    There are 2 reasons why I made this:

    1) So I can hopefully show arb some good ideas, atleast to me
    2) So I have the code done incase I want to make a game that uses it.

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    Jotaf,

    I think Gaming is aware that I won't be using code within the Sentience main game, but he is (or was) working on an external map editor for it.

    As soon as I get my arse in gear and send him what he wants he'll probably continue with that - and that will be his little baby, bundled with Sentience.

    Besides, as he says, any coding is experience and he may wish to use anything in a future project of his own. If I've whipped the code then things could be awkward later on, especially if the project goes commercial.

    Gaming,

    Behemoth and I were discussing the map editor and have some info for you. I'll collate it and eMail/post it here in a readable form (drunken notes aren't so legible )

    Also, I dowloaded your wotsit last night, but didn't get a chance to look at it. I'm also away from home tonight, so it'll probably be tomorrow before I get chance.

    First thing Monday morning, I'll post some comments for you.

    Thanks!
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    Portuguese ctr+alt+del is sexy

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    Arbiter this is the errors txt:

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    Originally posted by DaoK
    Portuguese ctr+alt+del is sexy
    Thanks
    And the chicks too

    *looks at errors.txt*

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    Temp = Me.GetIQ()
    'Error 9: Overflow
    'DON'T PANIC! :eek:

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    Daok,

    Dunno if you've checked the main Sentience thread recently, but if you read the post about the dual method of running Sentience (with or without DC's) you might find it works on your machine now.

    Have a look and let me know.

    Jotaf,

    If you want to have a quick think about anything you'd like to see in the diplomacy section of Sentience...
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    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

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    Hum... let's see... I can't think of anything better than "ally/enemy" and "pay tribute"
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    Some way to share technologys, resources (pay tribute), giving mechs, and sharing maps.

    And yes, I do know that I am not Jotaf98 but I figured I might as well post my ideas .
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    Gaming,

    All ideas are welcome regardless of who they come from!

    Those are pretty much what we've got already, along with a whole seperate section on infiltration etc.

    Jotaf,

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    well for infatration, stealing every thing you can share (technologys, resources, mechs, and maps), and possibly sabatosb (constrion, posser, deationation of a super-weapon in their base, ect.)
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    Com'on Arb, by saying "tributes" I meant that you could give anything you wanted to the other player (really )

    And there isn't much you can do in the diplomacy screen anyway

    Maybe you could include mass destruction wepons like nukes, ion cannons and weather storms

    A "base infiltration" screen too would be cool

    Another cool screen you could make would be the "hacks" screen, where you could hack into the enemies' systems and steal technologies, give wrong informations to their mechs (like "those turrets in the enemy's base aren't as powerful as we thought, attack them" ) , make a building or mech self-destruct, build things in the middle of nowhere, etc
    Code:
    Temp = Me.GetIQ()
    'Error 9: Overflow
    'DON'T PANIC! :eek:

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    Maybe you could include mass destruction wepons like nukes, ion cannons and weather storms (Didn't I just place this in the last post of mine?)

    Another cool screen you could make would be the "hacks" screen, where you could hack into the enemies' systems and steal technologies, give wrong informations to their mechs (like "those turrets in the enemy's base aren't as powerful as we thought, attack them" ) , make a building or mech self-destruct, build things in the middle of nowhere, etc (Isn't part of this in my post too?)
    Nuke is a little under-powered for this game.

    EMP, no damage but disables all there stuff for xxx turns, emptys their batterys, ect.
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    Jotaf,

    The infiltration screen is also going include things like hacks. We were trying to come up with some ideas for that - I'll see if I can dig out the list and post it here - it might jog your creative talents...

    Gaming,

    What's sabotosb, constrion, posser?
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    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

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    FYI, as attached...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ian Saunders [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: 12 February 2001 15:39
    To: Stappleton, Ben
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    "...it's just cosmetic..."

    I had another idea regarding diplomacy. When factions are "talking" it is possible to switch on a virus scanner, preventing transmission of viruses, but incurring the wrath of the other faction ("you dont trust me! war!") as an additional line of defence.

    Ok, a comprehensive list of espionage / terrorism software / viruses.
    Name : effect : relative tech level : diplomatic effect : prevention / cure
    Armageddon : slow deterioration leading to eventual eradication of a faction : very high : atrocity? auto vendetta? : preventative software? no cure?

    Shutdown : shuts an opposing factions production and research down : high : considerable anger : preventative software, hard reboot.

    Steal Tech : does what it says on the tin : low / medium : annoyance (if noticed) : preventative software, no cure (once its gone its gone).

    Steal Cash : see Steal Tech

    Reroute Processing 1 : Steals buildings / units from opposing player (temporarily?) : considerable annoyance : preventative software, hard reboot.

    Reroute Processing 2 : Uses opposing players processing points for own uses : annoyance (if noticed) : p.s / hard reboot / manual reroute.

    etc



    give me some more ideas...

    "Resources exist to be consumed...And consumed they shall be!"
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    My very sucky spelling abilities of:

    can't get it close enough for word to spell correctly, construction, posers
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    How about deleting technology?
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    Hum, yeah, they'd have to research it again

    The kind of base infiltration I was sawying was... having a really small mech that doesn't appear in the radar, and can go into an enemy building... from there on, you can hack into their system more easily and do that sort of stuff; steal the building; or self-destruct it if you want (might be good for defenses and core buildings)
    Code:
    Temp = Me.GetIQ()
    'Error 9: Overflow
    'DON'T PANIC! :eek:

    To learn how to use realistic effects in your games like fire, rain, snow and magic effects, read my article on particles systems here.


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    "Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision."

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    Daok,

    Dunno if you've checked the main Sentience thread recently, but if you read the post about the dual method of running Sentience (with or without DC's) you might find it works on your machine now.

    Have a look and let me know.
    Arbiter I am sure than you know than a good game do not need a manual to install it...

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    Daok,

    I don't know what you're saying.

    If you said that a good game does not need a manual to install it, then you're nearly correct.

    However, any game which is in its alpha stages and is being tested for fault resolution might need instructions.

    All things nowadays come with instruction - even for installation. In the next game you buy, check the manual - the first thing is how to install it.
    Gentile or Jew,
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    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

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    ^_^I want to play your game please

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    Daok,

    Give me as much information as you can about your system please.

    Spec's, OS, and what it runs when it boots.

    Load windows with no other software (i.e. nothing in the startup folder, nothing running when windows loads).

    Try downloading the latest version (usedc.zip) and running that.

    If it doesn't work, open the options.ini and change "useDCs" to "false".

    Try running it again.
    Gentile or Jew,
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    I downloaded (usedc.zip) and i got Runtime error. I will reboot and will tell you if I got that problem one more time.

  28. #628
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    30 seconds after the reboot I tryed your application and I got an error at : The game Launching.

    The error is : RunTime error 7 : Out of Memory

    I will try now "useDCs" to "false". .

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    The first time i tryed like that and it crashed :
    'Sound Options

    Voices: True
    SFX: True
    Music: False
    SFXVol: 100
    MusicVol: 80
    SFXBal: 50
    Musicbal: 50



    'Pathfinding Options

    CalcPathPerTurn: False
    ShowPath: False

    UseMemDCs: True

    ---------

    The second time I tryed that and It crashed :

    'Sound Options

    Voices: True
    SFX: True
    Music: False
    SFXVol: 100
    MusicVol: 80
    SFXBal: 50
    Musicbal: 50



    'Pathfinding Options

    CalcPathPerTurn: False
    ShowPath: False

    UseMemDCs: False

    -----

    Any other suggestion ?

  30. #630
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    This is information about my computer:

    P3 600 256Ram
    Windows Me

  31. #631
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    I have only : MY proxy, Dap, windows sound and my scanner in my reboot.

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    Daok,

    Check the Game and Graphics thread - Icheb's confirmed what I thought was the case but couldn't prove myself. It's down to the machine Sentience is running on.

    Sentience should run on any machine as long as it doesn't have loads of stuff running on it. Sentience is a bit memory hungry - probably due to shoddy programming.

    But it does work!
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    O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

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    Dude I can run Quake 3 without problem but not your game I am sure than you have excellent graphic and animation but if your game eat more ressource than Quake3 we have a problem

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    Daok,

    What you appear to be forgetting is that Quake3 was written over a period of years, by a team of top notch developers and support personnel with a large budget.

    Sentience has taken 12 months of coding by myself alone, and graphics done by Behemoth.

    They're not even in the same class so it's unfair to draw comparisons, but if you wish - I'll make a few.

    The basic fact remains that I can run the game on my machines, many others can run the game on their machines and anyone can run the game on a machine that's had a fresh installation of windows 4+ (no matter how crap the machine is). Quake 3 won't run on anything less than a Cray.

    If you can't run it on yours, it's down to the setup of your machine and the way it interacts with Sentience. I cannot take into account every possible machine variation, nor do I intend to try.

    Quake3 was written in a couple of languages (C and Asm I think). Sentience was written in VB - hardly world reknowned for it's game creating capabilities.

    The game, in its current stages, is provided free of charge on the condition that people who play it provide a little bit of feedback. I wasn't under the impression that Quake3 was free...

    If people can't get it to work, I'll do my damndest to fix their problem, speaking to each person individually to fully understand the background of the fault. Do you get personal 1 to 1 support from the developers of Quake3, or do you get a premium rate number to call?

    Basically, I've spent altogether too much time on a problem I can't duplicate and which only appears to occur on machine that people have tinkered with.

    As far as I'm concerned the problem is a moot one. Sentience runs on a clean machine, which is pretty much all I can hope to achieve. I cannot take into account the setup of everyones machine in the whole world so I'm not even going to try.

    If you can Sentience to work then good, enjoy a free game, if not - you've lost nothing. If you really, desperately want it to work - then clean your machine otherwise go and play Quake3.
    Gentile or Jew,
    O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

  35. #635
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    I wanted to play your game

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    Then I'm afraid you'll either have to clean your machine a bit (which is never a nice thing to do) or find a machine with a relatively fresh Windows install.

    Sorry...
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    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

  37. #637
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    I will do a winter format in december This might help but I have my ressource is at 87% when I reboot ( 256meg ram ). Any way, Thx for trying to help me

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    My standard system resources is at about 12 %, thats after a day without warez, with warez i need to reboot a few times.
    When i boot up it's only at 56 %...

    So, arb, i didnt realise it it was this low till i had a look at it
    Can this cause the problems with sentience ? (stupid question)
    The main VB routine in Windows XP (The don't admit it, they wrote it in VB)

    [vbcode]
    Public Sub Windows_Load()
    a = 1
    b = 2
    if not a + b = 2 then
    goto crash
    end if

    goto crash

    End Sub
    [/vbcode]

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    Originally posted by DaoK
    This is information about my computer:

    P3 600 256Ram
    Windows Me
    You have a better machine then i have but you might want to change to another win version, ME is a bit buggy.
    Howmuch conventional do you have free ?

    Icheb
    The main VB routine in Windows XP (The don't admit it, they wrote it in VB)

    [vbcode]
    Public Sub Windows_Load()
    a = 1
    b = 2
    if not a + b = 2 then
    goto crash
    end if

    goto crash

    End Sub
    [/vbcode]

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    Icheb,

    Conventional doesn't matter within windows (as was pointed out to me).

    I need to experiment to find out roughly what % resources Sentience needs.

    It's probably around 80% (at a rough guess, on my machine).
    Gentile or Jew,
    O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
    Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you...

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