Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Well our "must wear masks in public" mandate was warned on the 9th, details announced on the 10th, and took effect on the 13th. The order covers public indoor spaces and any crowded public outdoor spaces. The only serious controversy was around reporting and enforcement.
Store employees don't want to try policing it, but they are required to refuse service. Cops don't have guidance on how to write a citation for it, but it's a misdemeanor with a $500 fine.
This is to "ostensibly" to improve the data collection. Does anyone really believe that? Now Trump will be hiding the real numbers. We are still weeks away from the full numbers of the current southern out breaks. I'm willing to bet as soon as the data starts coming from the White House everything starts getting better on a daily basis. Trump is a liar and twists everything around trying to make himself look good. He has no issue with constantly lying. He is a real danger to our society. And there is still a large part of our population the that thinks he is great.
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It really does. Most of Idaho is untouched, or very lightly touched (except in the head...there, they are touched). On the other hand, most of Idaho can't travel to NY because they'd have to leave the state to find any means to go there, aside from by car, which would also mean leaving the state, of course. There are only about three airports in the state served by any major carriers, and at least two of those are in the highest infection rate areas. Those points may be related.
The bulk of the state has only a few mediocre roads to get them to pretty much anywhere...and a major rockslide closed the only viable N-S highway. The only other option at the time of the slide was only passable by high clearance vehicles (and bikes, but it's an amazing road dropping several thousand feet in a couple miles. At this point, the state is pretty nearly cut in half, with the vast majority of infections being in the southern half.
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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
Yeah, that's the sort of stuff I'm judging off of too. Still, I don't imagine a smaller dose can be worse in any way.
They're doing the same over here. The argument for the delay is that it allows shops time to train staff and sort out signage and the public time to buy masks if they haven't already. I'm not saying this is a good argument but it is the one being offered. And I can see that handing out fines to members of the public before they've had a chance to get a mask is unfair.
Lets see. Put the elastic straps around your ear and keep it on, training over. No signs necessary if masks are mandatory. No fines, just warnings for two weeks, refuse entry. So lets get started, lol
What is wrong with the people of Europe and the US, the governments are still afraid to take decisive action. Might upset the public. Your gonna get the countries back open sooner by stop counting on the public to do the right thing. What in our history would make them think that would work.
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We have an old SAC B-52 base that has been repurposed in part as a small "major" airport for national and international flights in the U.P. and six more down here "Under The Bridge." Yeah, yoopers sometimes call us "trolls" with much the same regard they have for "da cheeseheads and da danged raynchurs, you betcha."
Even many natives on the res there speak with that twisted-Finnish accent. It's a hoot.
Oh yeah, "raynchurs" ("rangers") are people from the Iron Range in neighboring "Minnersota" (Minnesota). Some will call it "the I-ran Range" to make them mad.
They don't get out much.
Last edited by dilettante; Jul 15th, 2020 at 04:14 PM.
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
It really does. Most of Idaho is untouched, or very lightly touched (except in the head...there, they are touched). On the other hand, most of Idaho can't travel to NY because they'd have to leave the state to find any means to go there, aside from by car, which would also mean leaving the state, of course. There are only about three airports in the state served by any major carriers, and at least two of those are in the highest infection rate areas. Those points may be related.
The bulk of the state has only a few mediocre roads to get them to pretty much anywhere...and a major rockslide closed the only viable N-S highway. The only other option at the time of the slide was only passable by high clearance vehicles (and bikes, but it's an amazing road dropping several thousand feet in a couple miles. At this point, the state is pretty nearly cut in half, with the vast majority of infections being in the southern half.
Went to Yellowstone @ 8yrs ago. Came up from 80 in Wells Nv. Spent the night at Twin Falls. I really enjoyed the drive, I like farm land, it's in my blood. Like the 75mph speed limit on parts of the highways. Made from Twin Falls to West Yellowstone in @ 4 or 5 hrs. Easy drive.
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Speed limit is 80, now.
Wells NV...that's quite the place. Last time I went through that town, there were two places to eat. One was a truckstop, the other a diner. Turns out, the diner was affiliated with a brothel somewhere on the edge of town. All the waitresses were elderly women. I've always wondered if that was the retirement package?
In late April things were pretty locked-down here and I went out for a drive. No traffic, no cops so I didn't get nabbed for unauthorized travel. No traffic and I had the car out of "Econ mode" and before I knew it I was doing over 90.
Got to be careful, cars have event data recorders now that record your speed. Supposed to be a 30 second recording but... hmm.
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Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Speed limit is 80, now.
Wells NV...that's quite the place. Last time I went through that town, there were two places to eat. One was a truckstop, the other a diner. Turns out, the diner was affiliated with a brothel somewhere on the edge of town. All the waitresses were elderly women. I've always wondered if that was the retirement package?
Didn't know any place had 80mph speed limit. I need to get out more.
Those ladies might be working two jobs. What do you expect in Wells.
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I went for an evening drive and a burger and shake. Headed out toward Zona Infectada but not quite that far into the war zone.
BK was out of Whopper patties, but I was just after a Rodeo which they said they could do. Got to the window and "burger grill not working" so I got free chicken nuggets instead. Probably had been shut down when the Whoppers ran out. Weird. COVID meat shortages?
Radio had a news story. Same dollar store deeper into Zona Infectada I had shopped in back in late June... some guy wiped his nose on a staff member when they told him had needed a mask to shop there. Charged with assault & battery.
Radio had a PSA from a dental association. "Marijuana rots your teeth worse than sugar, causes oral and throat cancers faster than chewing tobacco, is co-morbid with COVID-19, and can lead to violent psychotic breaks whether smoked or eaten in a brownie. The facts are in, get off the dope."
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Speed limit is 80, now.
Wells NV...that's quite the place. Last time I went through that town, there were two places to eat. One was a truckstop, the other a diner. Turns out, the diner was affiliated with a brothel somewhere on the edge of town. All the waitresses were elderly women. I've always wondered if that was the retirement package?
Must be a big change for them though...being on your feet all day
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The Moron in Chief has been going on and on for months how he saved thousands of lives with the China travel ban he put in place (leaving out he did almost nothing in February). The latest study from New York is showing there was community spread before that. Even his bull hockey is bull hockey...
I didn't think my disdain for Trump and his "basket of deplorables" could be greater but it is up another notch today. To hide the damage they have done with their mishandling of this pandemic they are going to hide the information. Where is the outrage?
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Local news has been spotty on the pandemic. Some areas are all "Trump is bad, m'kay?" and "Why was he so easy on China?" Other places the news has tended to be more practical. Example:
Is your local news doing anything useful to keep people informed?
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Originally Posted by dilettante
Is your local news doing anything useful to keep people informed?
I never thought TV news was really news anyways, but then again, I don't have a TV, so I can't really say how it is around here. It seems like TV news was largely designed for visuals. If the story had good visuals (even lame, repetitive, film clips), then it was on the news. If there weren't good visuals, then it was glossed over quickly. Perhaps a talking head, looking serious, and making a few statements...and then off to something more photogenic where the visual distracted from the lack of substance in the reporting.
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I started watching it a little more when my elderly neighbors started asking what was going on back in March. People in their 70s and 80s. They still have cable TV but fell into the habit of watching just CNN, just Fox News, etc. bemoaning the lack of local coverage.
I suggested trying local channels at the old traditional "news hour" time slots, Noon, 6PM, and 11 here as well as "daybreak." Some of them have gotten better, perhaps from necessity due to network competition. Even the weather coverage is far more useful than on cable alternatives. But they aren't all equal in quality.
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Yeah cable news seems to have turned into a political reality show. Local news can be helpful but I don't watch TV at those times. Normally I read the new from the internet in the morning with my coffee and I mean read. I hate the videos, I stop them and read the article. It's more peaceful that way. Late night I'll stop and watch the news for a couple of minutes as I'm surfing the channels.
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Local TV news has started to post more videos on their web sites. Perhaps more of them should also post a clean transcript in an easy to read form... proper paragraph breaks, whitespace, and such. Some are getting better but most TV and newspaper web sites are a nightmare of popup ads and other advertising clutter.
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I haven't been touched by this until yesterday. A friend, maybe better said an acquaintance, daughter died of Covid-19. She was in her forties. She had two kids that his older daughter is seeking custody of. First time it got this close to me
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Yeah, it's scary to see people denying this is a real disease and not some psyop or mere flu variation.
If you're looking for entertainment and want some bingable family-friendly content you might consider a re-watch of the Smallville series. A neighbor lent me her 10 Season DVD Boxed Set in trade for my Boxed Set of The Prisoner and my Jason Bourne collection. You can also catch it on at least one streaming service though instead.
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I also heard that in some areas vacant airport parking lots have been rigged with temporary movie screens for a drive-in theater experience as charity fundraisers. They even have food trucks to supply some concession food items. The audio is sent out via FM radio to the cars.
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This is the same CDC that said masks are not helpful before reversing itself. Then it said social distancing was not effective before recommending it. Then it said people can congregate in groups of 50 or under before saying 10 or under. And on, and on, and in every way acting so much like the corrupt WHO.
They are both riddled with neoliberal political henchmen.
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Originally Posted by dilettante
This is the same CDC that said masks are not helpful before reversing itself. Then it said social distancing was not effective before recommending it. Then it said people can congregate in groups of 50 or under before saying 10 or under. And on, and on, and in every way acting so much like the corrupt WHO.
They are both riddled with neoliberal political henchmen.
At least they are making honest mistakes as we learn more about the pandemic. Trump continues flat out lying and gas lighting us. He is a buffoon that is literally killing tens of thousands of Americans with his incompetence. I am really at a loss how you can support him. I can understand you wanting to vote against Democrats. I don't understand how you can support what he does.
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What makes you think I support him and what he does?
Sure, he's done good tings like vetoing the TPP and trying to pull troops home, though the neoliberals manage to block him at nearly every turn. He's made some efforts at controlling criminal immigration, but most of those were blocked as well. And sure, he's proposed some dumb and even awful stuff too but that hardly ever goes anywhere.
The sad fact is the world would be a far more ugly place with the Clinton-Bush crowd in charge again. They have too much power yet as it is. How many "former" CIA members did the Dems buy into Congress last midterm election?
I enjoy watching Trump The Flaming Bag Of Crap on their doorstep right where we put it.
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
