FORUM ISSUES: Report Upgraded Issues in this thread

[dunfiddlin]

Here's a funny thing...

I was creating a NEW POST - thought I had a problem I needed help with.

While getting COPY/PASTE stuff from the IDE for the post I realized what my problem was.

So I go to CLOSE THE BROWSER window - and I did not get the ABOUT TO NAVIGATE away message!!

Isn't that the whole point of the message?

Well, actually, no. Not now we have auto save. It's usually safe to leave the page these days .... which just makes the false showings all the more annoying!

[brad jones]

Well yes and no. I can't help noticing that you're using VBulletin 4.1.5 which is not by any means the latest version, other sites being operated with 4.2.0 and no difficulties of any kind.

Are you sure they are having no difficulties of the kind? Are they as large as VBForums? Our smaller forums aren't showing the same signs of strain.

Regardless of the answers, we actually are looking at the point upgraded and have discussed that. It is one of the options our techs have been working with.

Brad!

[Shaggy Hiker]

Our smalle rforums aren't showing hte same signs of strain.

Brad!

You, on the other hand....

Good spelling, though.

[brad jones]

You, on the other hand....

Good spelling, though.

Yes, I suffer the same pains when using this forum as you guys. I'm a horrible typist - I type everything twice - first wrong, then I fix it. When I did the above post, it was one of those times where the forum decided not to show what I was typing until a few seconds (very long seconds) after I entered it. As such, I didn't catch all the typos....

The moral of the story - I feel the same pain you guys feel when the forum software isn't working like we want.....

Hence why you can be assured I'm raising the issues (over and over and over).....

Brad!

[dday9]

Shoot brad, I don't blame you :] so don't be hard on yourself. In fact, today the performance is a huge improvement then it was a couple days ago. I'm glad to see that we're making solid steps forward to fix the issues at hand.

[gep13]

Well yes and no. I can't help noticing that you're using VBulletin 4.1.5 which is not by any means the latest version, other sites being operated with 4.2.0 and no difficulties of any kind.

It is difficult to draw any sort of parallels between direct versions of the software, there are just far too many variables! For instance, the shear size of the database that VBForums must be using given the number of threads, posts, users, and level of traffic.

Gary

[Niya]

...In fact, today the performance is a huge improvement then it was a couple days ago....

Oh yes, its been performing much better lately. Glad for that

Still takes a while to post though but navigation is good.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Did something change today? Yesterday I was getting LOTS of delays when posting. Today, I have been here for some time, and it has worked flawlessly. There is a difference, though, since I am now on a MUCH faster connection.

[nbrege]

I'm not sure what performance improvements you guys are talking about, but I'm sure not seeing any improvements. It's really bad today for me ... very slow & getting database errors.

[dday9]

I've gotten 1 database error today, which is 90% better than yesterday :]

[szlamany]

Got a trailing comma that doesn't look good here...

[Shaggy Hiker]

Yeah, performance went right back down this afternoon. Things were FLYING this morning, but not so much, now. Lots of DB errors and the navigation dialog.

[Nightwalker83]

Yet more multiple posts here!

Edit:

Got a trailing comma that doesn't look good here...

You must be lucky! I don't get one, looking at the current users browsing this thread.

[szlamany]

...You must be lucky! I don't get one, looking at the current users browsing this thread.

Yep - lucky I am!

Wonder what I get for that?

[nbrege]

IE shows the trailing comma, FF doesn't. Also, can't attach images using FF ... had to use IE to post this.

[Nightwalker83]

That would be why I don't see the trailing comma I am using fire fox.

[gep13]

IE shows the trailing comma, FF doesn't. Also, can't attach images using FF ... had to use IE to post this.

Hmm, I am not convinced...

I have just done the same test.

On a thread where I was the only person viewing, I didn't get a trailing comma in either FF, IE, or Chrome.

On a thread where there were more than one person viewing, I didn't get a trailing comma in either FF, IE or Chrome.

Could this be user specific?

Gary

[akhileshbc]

Most probably, it would be a small mistake in the PHP code of the forum software. But I am not really sure about it.

The following is a similar situation where it would output an extra "," at the end:

<?php

  $users_viewing_thread[] = "akhileshbc";
  $users_viewing_thread[] = "gep13";
  $users_viewing_thread[] = "guest1";
  $users_viewing_thread[] = "";             //an empty element - this would affect the implode(aka array join) function's output

  $output = implode( ', ', $users_viewing_thread );

  echo $output; // will output the following string: "akhileshbc, gep13, guest1,"

?>

Here when joining the array, if the last element in the array is empty or contains only white spaces, then the joined text would contain an extra space at the end.

Output of the above code would be:

akhileshbc, gep13, guest1,

Just a guess..

[Nightwalker83]

@ gep, tested in IE and Chrome too and I don't get the trailing comma either.

[.paul.]

the member list is disabled... could you enable it?

[nbrege]

It looks like IE8 shows the trailing comma, IE9 doesn't...

[gep13]

the member list is disabled... could you enable it?

This was turned off during testing, as it was identified as a component that could be adding to the performance problems. It will hopefully get turned on once all the testing/investigation is completed.

Gary

[gep13]

It looks like IE8 shows the trailing comma, IE9 doesn't...

That's just weird!

[dunfiddlin]

That's just weird!

Although possibly not as weird as the devotion of over a page of comments relating to a totally inconsequential comma!!!!

[dunfiddlin]

Well this is a new one .... reply to one thread, end up in another!

http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...ustom-listview

[westconn1]

i have seen little response to issues (other than the main speed one) posted in this thread, this includes code or highlight buttons on the quick reply window, breadcrumbs at the bottom, and the poor highlight syntax of the new forum
is anything going to be done about some of these, anytime soon?

i do like the thread started date, with the thread starter in the forum list, something i inquired about previously

[akhileshbc]

i have seen little response to issues (other than the main speed one) posted in this thread, this includes code or highlight buttons on the quick reply window, breadcrumbs at the bottom, and the poor highlight syntax of the new forum
is anything going to be done about some of these, anytime soon?

i do like the thread started date, with the thread starter in the forum list, something i inquired about previously

+1

Without the CODE button, the quick reply feature is of no use !

[penagate]

Come on! You guys are meant to be programmers, but you can't handle typing out a couple of BBcode tags?

[techgnome]

Not without a code snippet that enables use to use Ctrl+Alt+LeftShift+Elbow+Cripplefingers+B as a shortcut.

-tg

[dunfiddlin]

Come on! You guys are meant to be programmers, but you can't handle typing out a couple of BBcode tags?

To say nothing of customising a hotkey combo for the purpose!

Not without a code snippet that enables use to use Ctrl+Alt+LeftShift+Elbow+Cripplefingers+B as a shortcut.

Yeah see, I always forget the elbow!!!!

[dday9]

Something that happened to me yesterday(and I forgot to do a print screen) was the formatting of the thread was all messed up. Like the 1/2 of one post was ontop of another and my quick reply was behind a bunch of post, ect. All I had to do was refresh(F5) the webpage and it was formatted correctly.

[szlamany]

I saw the same bad formatting while uploading attachments - and I ignored it for a few days.

Then when I thought it was time to post a screeen shot here of the attachement popup being all out of whack - and it decides to work!

So they either fixed it or it's hard to duplicate.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Come on! You guys are meant to be programmers, but you can't handle typing out a couple of BBcode tags?

I knew I got something messed up I used BBKing tags, and all I got were the blues.

I'd like to add a vote for getting the CODE tags back on the quick reply, but beside the double post issue, that's totally trivial.

[dday9]

I knew I got something messed up I used BBKing tags, and all I got were the blues.

:] that made my night!

[Nightwalker83]

Is that correct that private messages sent or received more than 7 days ago are list under "Last Week"? The message I am referring to is the one mentioned in post #182. Last I knew a week was no less or no more than 7 days and the difference between today's date and the date of the message is 11 days.

[nbrege]

Is that correct that private messages sent or received more than 7 days ago are list under "Last Week"? The message I am referring to is the one mentioned in post #182. Last I knew a week was no less or no more than 7 days and the difference between today's date and the date of the message is 11 days.

I'm guessing that "Last Week" means the previous Monday through Sunday time span. So if your message is 11 days old, that would date it at Monday, 8/13 ... which in my mind is still "Last Week".

[dday9]

I don't know if this is a new issue or not, but for some reason I cannot give reputation to post in the codebank. When I tried it brought me to a page to give a comment for the rep and when I pressed continue it brought me to a page saying that the request wasn't granted :[ I've also been getting quite a few database errors.

[.paul.]

double posts, database errors, + "Leave this page" messages today.
+ slow navigation

[Edgemeal]

Not sure if this was mentioned but if you click on a link that targets a single post the whole page that the post is on loads instead of just the single post now.

Hmmm, seems to view the single post only, the easiest way is to just replace "&viewfull=1" with "&perpage=1" in the link.

Edit Test: View This post only.

[dilettante]

As the other thread discusses, the updated site is indeed slow.

I only wish it was written in .Net instead of PHP. At least it would give me another example of balky, slow, and erratic performance offered by .Net that I could point to. I make good money ripping .Net "solutions" and replacing them with efficient, clean burning VB6 alternatives!


But more frustrating are the many, many times a day when it appears to have crashed and be restarting from its ashes.

And then you have those herky-jerky popups about leaving the page - that usually don't even apply. Don't get me started on the awful, goofy Manage Attachments dialog. Or the stupid AJAX "draft saving" that seems erratic. or... well tons of things.

And strangly enough we still have the stupid "scripted window" alerts when you click on "link" and "bulleted list" and other buttons - even though other vBulletin sites haven't had these for years.


About the only thing that brings me back here is that there is still enough posting volume here for the site to be considerd "alive." Other forum sites covering this same topic seem to be fading away to nothing.