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    Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Just trying to get my head round some maths notation some of it is ok but some im stuggling with.

    Is {3} a sub set of {3}?

    Does {3} = {{3}}?

    Does 0 belong to the empty set?

    Does 0 belong to the empty set inside a set?

    Im also struggling with this double sum question, as im trying to teach myself this subject.


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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Hi, welcome to the forums.

    I can give you a bit of a push with the double sum. See the attached figure. Unfortunately I just don't know how to calculate the sum of the i2's
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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Is {3} a sub set of {3}?
    Yes, AFAIK.
    Does {3} = {{3}}?
    No, {3} is an element of {{3}}.
    Does 0 belong to the empty set?
    Possibly No, but I am not sure.
    Does 0 belong to the empty set inside a set?
    This depends largely on the previous answer. So, my answer would be no. But again, I am not sure on this one too.
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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by demon8991
    Just trying to get my head round some maths notation some of it is ok but some im stuggling with.



    Does 0 belong to the empty set?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by demon8991
    Does 0 belong to the empty set inside a set?
    No
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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by krtxmrtz
    Hi, welcome to the forums.

    I can give you a bit of a push with the double sum. See the attached figure. Unfortunately I just don't know how to calculate the sum of the i2's
    This will help
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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Glaysher
    This will help
    I can't remember, was there some standard technique for this type of sums?
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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Glaysher
    This will help
    Using Glaysher's result, the sum of post #2 becomes

    S = N(N + 1)2/2
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    Re: Sets and Double Sum Questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by krtxmrtz
    I can't remember, was there some standard technique for this type of sums?
    There are several ways to prove it but it is considered a standard result usually given in formula books.
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