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Mar 20th, 2005, 05:17 AM
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Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
I just read about windows longhorn and i must say microsoft and the direction they are taking scares me. They seem like they are slowly infringing on our privacy. Longhorn is going to essentially uniquely ID you and copying a cd? that will be a thing of the past as microsoft decides that it doesnt want users sharing media unless microsoft says its legitimate by there standards. Longhorn sounds more bloated, slower, and more confusing than windows xp. Every other day they have some new standard they make up that is more trouble than its worth. They say longhorn will have new protective measures to stop viruses and worms by only allowing authorized programs to run. Are they kidding me? how many people have authorized a program with a virus? um none. Sorry for the long message but anyone else feel this way? When they own 95 percent of markshare we live by there decision pretty much. Curious what any of u think on this.
Last edited by abcdefg; Mar 21st, 2005 at 03:28 AM.
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Mar 20th, 2005, 04:30 PM
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Hyperactive Member
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft
Thats why im not going to buy any future versions of windows, the only good version of windows microsoft made was 2000 pro.
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Mar 22nd, 2005, 03:27 AM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by abcdefg
Longhorn is going to essentially uniquely ID you and copying a cd? that will be a thing of the past as microsoft decides that it doesnt want users sharing media unless microsoft says its legitimate by there standards.
I don't know where you got that information from, but they are not allowed to do that, the closest thing to something like that is product activation, and that doesn't uniquely identify you at all.
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Mar 22nd, 2005, 08:00 AM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
They say longhorn will have new protective measures to stop viruses and worms by only allowing authorized programs to run.
This digital signing of applications will prevent viruses attaching themselves to said executable and provide a much greater level of security than currently exists. This is a very good thing.
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Mar 22nd, 2005, 09:35 AM
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Fanatic Member
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by abcdefg
...and copying a cd? that will be a thing of the past as microsoft decides that it doesnt want users sharing media unless microsoft says its legitimate by there standards.
To do this they would have to stop all 3rd party burner software (incl. Nero) and they cannot do this. Whether Microsoft like it or not CD burners are here to stay, especially as USB memory sticks haven't reached that capacity yet anyway.
Added to which many countries (incl the EU) allow persons to make ONE backup of a CD (software, music etc). So if Microsoft decided to stop CD burning they could be sued by a LOT of people for breach of European Law
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Mar 22nd, 2005, 09:54 AM
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Not NoteMe
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by Valleysboy1978
especially as USB memory sticks haven't reached that capacity yet anyway.
I've seen ones offering 2GB of storage. While it doesn't get up to DVD standards, it certainly beats CDs.
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Mar 24th, 2005, 10:43 AM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by SLH
 I've seen ones offering 2GB of storage. While it doesn't get up to DVD standards, it certainly beats CDs.
Really!?! Haven't seen any of them around.
That is just getting ridiculous. It's going to get to the point where HDD's are no longer needed, just take your USB HDD around with you
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Mar 24th, 2005, 11:20 AM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
Not a USB device per se, but CF type 2 tiny modules are actually tiny hard drives. My camera uses it, and I got a PCMCIA -> CF adapter for my laptop so it is the same as using a thumb drive. They are releasing a 6GB version for around $300 this month:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Mar 24th, 2005, 04:23 PM
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Not NoteMe
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by Valleysboy1978
Really!?! Haven't seen any of them around.
That is just getting ridiculous. It's going to get to the point where HDD's are no longer needed, just take your USB HDD around with you 
I was in Hungry (Budapest) when i saw them, but yeah, they're around. I was amazed when i saw them as well!
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Mar 24th, 2005, 04:25 PM
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Not NoteMe
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by Dave Sell
Not a USB device per se, but CF type 2 tiny modules are actually tiny hard drives. My camera uses it, and I got a PCMCIA -> CF adapter for my laptop so it is the same as using a thumb drive. They are releasing a 6GB version for around $300 this month:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
That's not what the one i saw looked like, the one(s) i saw just looked exactly like a normal USB stick.
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Mar 25th, 2005, 12:21 AM
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Dazed Member
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
I think you can get a normal usb stick with a 2gb cap can't you? My dad finds tons of usb sticks at work. Stupid little kids drop them when they are running down the school hallways.
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Mar 25th, 2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
Doesn't take a stupid little kid. Those things are small enough that I keep misplacing mine. Guess I need more memory
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Mar 25th, 2005, 04:36 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
We have had 6Gb flash card here a long time all ready. We don't have USB pens that have more then 1Gb, but we have USB minidrives that have 4Gb:
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=302226&cks=PRL
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Mar 25th, 2005, 04:37 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
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Mar 25th, 2005, 04:40 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
Yep - and I understood every word in those two links
You say "have them here a long time" like they aren't all made in indo-china!
MS sent me a little 256 MB one for being a partner - with a little string for hanging around my neck...
But I end up putting it in my laptop case anyway!
[edit] Actually it's only 128 - I guess I didn't rate!
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Mar 25th, 2005, 07:53 PM
#16
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by szlamany
Yep - and I understood every word in those two links
Copy paste from the first link:
eMagic TinyDrive USB 2.0 4.0GB
EMagic MS-2000 USB2.0 Tiny Drive - harddisk - 4 GB - Hi-Speed USB
Harddisk - ekstern
6.4 cm x 5.5 cm x 1.4 cm
4 GB
Hi-Speed USB
second link:
Kingston Datatraveler Elite 2048MB USB2 13MB/23MB sec
2 GB
Hi-Speed USB
Apple MacOS 9.x, Apple MacOS X 10.x, Microsoft Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
How many non english words was that... ...no wonder why all my books at school is in English...
 Originally Posted by szlamany
You say "have them here a long time" like they aren't all made in indo-china!
Yeah, I guess they have had them longer then us. But I find it weird you guys in USA, and the UK didn't have them before little Norway in the end of the world...
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Mar 25th, 2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by NoteMe
But I find it weird you guys in USA, and the UK didn't have them before little Norway in the end of the world...
We test drive this stuff in Norway - didn't you get the memo?
If it doesn't kill or mutate you after a couple of months, we let the pregnant women here try it next!
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Mar 25th, 2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
Hehehhee....ohhh....so thats how it works. Well I guess the mail ended up in my spam box again. Sorry for that. Will test the new pills you guys sendt me later on tonight...
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Mar 26th, 2005, 02:17 AM
#19
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
Here. Take these.
You didn't take the blue one, did you? OMG!
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Mar 26th, 2005, 04:12 PM
#20
Retired VBF Adm1nistrator
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
The ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all
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Mar 28th, 2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
Nevermind. I'm not good at reading sometimes.
So this isn't an entirely useless post, a hard drive maker did make a 97GB hard drive entirely out of solid state memory. I believe it costs about $60k USD so it might be a while before solid state wins out the current HDs. Though I heard a company is currently developing a solid state type of memory that would be must cheaper and could hold much more data. I'll have to see if I can find that link.
Last edited by Kasracer; Mar 28th, 2005 at 06:44 PM.
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Mar 29th, 2005, 10:52 AM
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Fanatic Member
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
 Originally Posted by kasracer
Nevermind. I'm not good at reading sometimes.
So this isn't an entirely useless post, a hard drive maker did make a 97GB hard drive entirely out of solid state memory. I believe it costs about $60k USD so it might be a while before solid state wins out the current HDs. Though I heard a company is currently developing a solid state type of memory that would be must cheaper and could hold much more data. I'll have to see if I can find that link.
That would be just a waste of money
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 04:21 AM
#23
New Member
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
6gig is nothing...go do some research on Blu Ray...even though it's a cd its uber space...like 300gig
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 04:23 AM
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New Member
Re: Windows longhorn and microsoft bad news?
1.5 How much data can you fit on a Blu-ray disc?
A single-layer disc can fit 23.3GB, 25GB or 27GB.
A dual-layer disc can fit 46.6GB, 50GB or 54GB.
To ensure that the Blu-ray Disc format is easily extendable (future-proof) it also includes support for multi-layer discs, which should allow the storage capacity to be increased to 100GB-200GB (25GB per layer) in the future simply by adding more layers to the discs.
told ya...
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