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    firefox

    I downloaded it to check it out because it got a lot of hype, but I am wondering what are your guys reasons for liking it OVER internet explorer.

    I mean it is a nice browser and everything, but does it do something that IE does not, or is it just the fact that it does less? or does it use less ram? what are your reasons for using it?

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    - I have Win2k here at work, so I dont have access to the features SP2 adds to IE, so the FF pop up blocking is great.

    - tabbed browsing.

    - Extensions are the cherry to the pie. Im using Adblock & MouseGestures, not mentioning the custom themes you can have.

    - You can really customize the appereance of FF, you can add or remove buttons at will (dont like the Go button? just drag it off)

    - Forget about spyware and adware. This baby doesnt uses crappy Java from MS and it doesnt loads automatically nasty ActiveX controls.
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    I do like the tabbed browsing...

    Using IE on a non xp system I use google toolbar as a popup blocker

    but IE doesn't automatically install activex controls.. so I am not sure where you got that from?

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    Popup blocking
    Tabbed browsing
    Standards compliance (if it's written well, it renders well)
    Does not support ActiveX anything
    Smaller, lighter, quicker, extentions, themes.

    It isn't Miscrosoft.

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    Originally posted by kleinma
    I do like the tabbed browsing...

    Using IE on a non xp system I use google toolbar as a popup blocker

    but IE doesn't automatically install activex controls.. so I am not sure where you got that from?
    Well at least I am some times getting odd toolbars in IE after browsing a while and installing apps that contains spyware, like MSN Plus!...and it is hard to get rid of it.


    My reasons for FF over IE:

    - Faster
    - Tabed browser
    - All the neeth extensions
    - Quick search
    - Form controlls are faster
    - More secure

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    It makes me look cool at work.
    I sneer at others whose web apps don't work in FF.
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    Oh yeah, and the Developer Toolbar extentions.... that's come in handy a number of times.

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    My Reasons:
    • Highly, configurable. Everything is wrriten in XML \ Javascript and it can all be changed.
    • Open source.
    • Free.
    • Small and compact. I have a build of Firefox installed on my USB disk, it weighs in at just over 8Mb and fully supports themes and extensions.
    • Extensions, ensure you always download from a reliable, trusted source. The best of which are the AdBlock and the WebDev toolbar.
    • Search plugins. I have one for the PHP site, just type the name of the function and you get the documentation for it dispalyed.
    • Themes.
    • Tabbed browsing.
    • It never crashes.
    • Built in RSS support.
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    As long as it doesn't spit out error messages like IE does, I'll give it a try on my new pc.

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    I like it because it takes so long to load.
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    Originally posted by JPicasso
    I like it because it takes so long to load.
    lol it does seem slower than IE, but that may be because IE is always running (or at least parts of it are running) at any time on windows

    one thing I noticed is that if forces you to install an "agent" for reporting crash info.. even MS lets you turn that stuff off.. whats up with that?

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    It doesn't force you to install it. If you do a custom install, then you can untick the appropriate box.
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    Originally posted by Acidic
    It doesn't force you to install it. If you do a custom install, then you can untick the appropriate box.
    I just installed it at home and it acted as you said allowing it to be selected or not selected... but when I installed it at my office today, it was grayed out and wouldn't let me uncheck the option to install the agent.. I wonder why..

    I did have the last beta release before the final 1.0 installed on that machine.. i wonder if that had something to do with it

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    Install the theme Noia 2.0 (Extreme)
    It completely skins the browser rather than just bits of it that other themes do
    Install the extensions IEView and FireFoxView so that you can easily switch back and forth.
    Right click in IE and it says Open Link in FireFox
    Right Click in FireFox and it says Open Link in IE

    The Adblock extension means that you dont have to look at the VBWire Adverts in the headers here

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    UserContent.css...
    Don't want to see that, change that, brilliant.

    Two questions:
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    Does anyone know how to stop animated gifs from looping
    2.
    Stop urlbar autocomplete. I've tried setting browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled, false and similiar values but no joy.

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    tabbed browsing is also handy. Lets you view external links and links clicked in other applications in a new tab instead of a new window.
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    Mozilla and FireFox have real problems rendering some web pages, look at this:
    The initial page render:
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    'Heading for the automatic overload'
    Marillion, Brave, The Great Escape, 1994

    'How will WE stand the FIRE TOMORROW?'
    Eloy, Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes, The Vision - Burning, 1979

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    After pressing CTRL+R several times:
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    'Heading for the automatic overload'
    Marillion, Brave, The Great Escape, 1994

    'How will WE stand the FIRE TOMORROW?'
    Eloy, Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes, The Vision - Burning, 1979

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    And after begging FF to render the page correct with hitting ctrl+r several more times, at last:
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    'Heading for the automatic overload'
    Marillion, Brave, The Great Escape, 1994

    'How will WE stand the FIRE TOMORROW?'
    Eloy, Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes, The Vision - Burning, 1979

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    You can get tabbed browsing for IE. M$ came out with it a few weeks ago.

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    Report it as a bug.
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    Originally posted by visualAd
    Report it as a bug.
    I don't care.
    'Heading for the automatic overload'
    Marillion, Brave, The Great Escape, 1994

    'How will WE stand the FIRE TOMORROW?'
    Eloy, Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes, The Vision - Burning, 1979

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    Originally posted by Lunatic3
    I don't care.
    Well don't expect it to be fixed then. At least the guys at Mozilla actually bother to fix the bugs.
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    Originally posted by visualAd
    Well don't expect it to be fixed then. At least the guys at Mozilla actually bother to fix the bugs.
    I don't expect it, as I don't use them when in Windows.
    'Heading for the automatic overload'
    Marillion, Brave, The Great Escape, 1994

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    Here's a better example. From firefox's own website. I wonder if they know this...

    http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=image/tid/40

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    Re: firefox

    Originally posted by kleinma
    I downloaded it to check it out because it got a lot of hype, but I am wondering what are your guys reasons for liking it OVER internet explorer.

    I mean it is a nice browser and everything, but does it do something that IE does not, or is it just the fact that it does less? or does it use less ram? what are your reasons for using it?
    Few main reasons :

    Does not attract thousands of Parasite like IE
    AdBlock, its a revulution I tell you! (No,not popup blocking!)
    Tabbed Browsing
    Dowloads files in part, easy to resume if connection drops.
    Intregrated RSS Feed support.

    Things I dont like :
    Rendering issues with some DHTML site, specially MSDN.
    (Most because of non standard HTML)
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    Re: Re: firefox

    Originally posted by Danial
    easy to resume if connection drops.
    That has never worked for me. Not even in Netscape.
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    Ive neved had any problems viewing spreadfirefox or any other webpage, but MSDN and Windowsupdate on the other hand.... Noia 2.0 (eXtreme) is by far the best theme, it really gives FF a new look and feel.
    Last edited by Xcoder : 09-10-2001 at 12:45 AM.

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    Originally posted by dglienna
    You can get tabbed browsing for IE. M$ came out with it a few weeks ago.
    oh yeah where is that option in IE?

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    Originally posted by dglienna
    You can get tabbed browsing for IE. M$ came out with it a few weeks ago.
    Are you talking about this? http://windowsmarketplace.com/Results.aspx?collID=46

    Because this isn't Microsoft coming out with Tabbed browsing for IE
    Its developers using the IE engine and creating their own browsers....

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    Originally posted by techgnome


    It isn't Miscrosoft.

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    always the popular answer on a forum dedicated to a Microsoft technology huh??

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    I guess he more meant with that, that he doesn't want to depend on Microsoft on every single program on the computer. I'm fine with Windows and VB6 and maybe some program that doesn't come into my mind right away, but I think it is good to keep up competition in various ways. Office can be replaced for example, I'm not too fond of the programs, so it is easy to use an alternative solution. Firefox does the same, and is a great program too.

    techgnome can correct me if I guessed him wrong

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    Originally posted by kleinma
    always the popular answer on a forum dedicated to a Microsoft technology huh??
    but you have to admit, you see the humor in that.

    Originally posted by Merri
    I guess he more meant with that, that he doesn't want to depend on Microsoft on every single program on the computer. I'm fine with Windows and VB6 and maybe some program that doesn't come into my mind right away, but I think it is good to keep up competition in various ways. Office can be replaced for example, I'm not too fond of the programs, so it is easy to use an alternative solution. Firefox does the same, and is a great program too.

    techgnome can correct me if I guessed him wrong
    Nope, that pretty much sums it up. I've never been a big fan of IE, it's always felt klunky and then you had to do funky coding to get it to look right. And it seems to crash on me a lot more than FF does.

    Yes, sometimes FF takes a little longer to laod than IE, but I think kleinma is right: IE is always there, so it's going to load faster, but for me, it's the page rendering that FF does better and faster. And doing a lot of websurfing, that's the importaint part to me.

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    One big thing I hate about IE's page loading is that it blinks a whole lot. Its like a VB game without a backbuffering

    As for loading times, I see no difference. In the other hand... I have an AMD Sempron 2800+ processor running here.


    More on the topic, IE6 was somewhat great when it came: it was, at the time, the best you could get. No other browser supported CSS as well as it did, even though it still had its flaws. I even had to fix my code at the time as I had some errors, so the page displayed correctly. Weren't a great one with HTML at the time... nowadays I know too much of it.

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    if you want FF to render a little bit faster try this trick

    go to about:config and set true

    network.dns.disableIPv6

    hope it helps
    Last edited by Xcoder : 09-10-2001 at 12:45 AM.

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    Re: firefox

    Originally posted by kleinma
    I downloaded it to check it out because it got a lot of hype, but I am wondering what are your guys reasons for liking it OVER internet explorer.

    I mean it is a nice browser and everything, but does it do something that IE does not, or is it just the fact that it does less? or does it use less ram? what are your reasons for using it?
    my main reason is just the way it looks and how its customizable

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    I created about 10 custom controls in .NET for use in my ASP.NET applications and none of the javascript works when I view the applications in FireFox.

    I prefer IE, at least I get consistent results.
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    Because you're using Microsoft standards - not the commonly agreed standards

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