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May 23rd, 2004, 01:43 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Dazed Member
Execution Video
Has anyone see this video yet? The one where the contractor has his head cut off. Ive seen the video and i also have the link to it but i don't feel like its a good idea to post it. Anyone have any thoughts about this video?
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May 24th, 2004, 03:42 AM
#2
Addicted Member
I seen this last night...i was stunned. Truly awful stuff.
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May 24th, 2004, 07:20 AM
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May 24th, 2004, 07:29 AM
#4
Addicted Member
you don't ... trust me.
I'm sure we've all seen some pretty rotten stuff, right. Well this is the rotten-est stuff i have ever seen.
Then again maybe i'm sure a little squeamish when it comes to bowie knives, throats, windpipes and guys screaming like stuck pigs.
...but if your still curious then ogrish.com
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May 24th, 2004, 08:00 AM
#5
One thing confuses me about the video, why does the killer give his name but still cover his face?
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May 24th, 2004, 08:35 AM
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Lively Member
I cant stop thinking this is just another distraction-stunt, to take away the attention from the prisoner abuses....is it?
Last edited by Xcoder : 09-10-2001 at 12:45 AM.
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May 24th, 2004, 08:35 AM
#7
Ex-Super Mod'rater
I don't believe it, there is nothing to say that the guy getting his head cut off is a actual person, the body barley moves and as for the sounds they could easily be made from the background. And if you think the body looks real then in that case maybe its an already dead body. All the times it moves are when that guy is pulling it about.
Posted by DeadEyes
One thing confuses me about the video, why does the killer give his name but still cover his face?
Maybe he's trying to get someone else in trouble but if they see his face they know he's not who he said he was
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May 24th, 2004, 08:45 AM
#8
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Originally posted by Electroman
I don't believe it, there is nothing to say that the guy getting his head cut off is a actual person, the body barley moves and as for the sounds they could easily be made from the background. And if you think the body looks real then in that case maybe its an already dead body. All the times it moves are when that guy is pulling it about.
Maybe he's trying to get someone else in trouble but if they see his face they know he's not who he said he was
this is entirely possible...Who knows. But personally i don't care if he was alive or dead it was still pretty fcuked. Christ i can't stand anyone even LOOKING at my throat now.
...wasn't the 'body' confirmed as that of the contractor anyway? One way or another he met a gruesome end
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May 24th, 2004, 12:18 PM
#9
Thread Starter
Dazed Member
I think the video is a load of crap. At 4:30 someone starts screaming in the background. The dude getting his head cut off hardly moves at all. You would think that if someone was trying to cut off your head you would thrash about.
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May 27th, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Hyperactive Member
Which is the purpose of having his face covered up.
Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught. - Oscar Wilde
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May 27th, 2004, 02:02 PM
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Yes it is a real person. Yes that person was alive when it happened. Yes you dipsheits will call it a conspiracy cooked up by the CIA to take attention away from the prison situation.
Of course the kid didn't move. The kid was in shock. Have you ever scared the living hell out of yourself and your body freezes.(scared stiff) If you never have, believe me it does happen. I'd say that having a bunch of masked ***-sticks video taping themselvs cutting your head off definatly falls under that category.
And as far as the so called "torture" of the Iraqi prisoners. STFU about it already. That is not tourture. Light hazing mabe. Christ, I've seen a hell of a lot worse happen to college kids pledging to get into a frat house. Grow a pair you bunch of pu$$ies. Someone should get in a time machine, go back and shoot all of your dumarse parents for letting you watch barney the gay purple dinosaur when you were children.
Last edited by MasterBlaster; May 27th, 2004 at 02:10 PM.
"And most of the evils of society can, in fact, be cured through information. We have a society that has been disinformed and based on the disinformation has made irrational choices. And that's what I mean by 'ignorance.' People, who ordinarily might be smart, are deprived of the data by which to make a rational decision, don't have the data to do it."
Frank Zappa
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May 28th, 2004, 07:36 AM
#12
I'm sure MasterBlaster you wouldn't mind being one of the 30 people "hazed" to death.
If you've seen worse being done to kids getting into a frat house then thats a sad reflection on your society.
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May 29th, 2004, 04:36 AM
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Well ...
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Yes it is a real person. Yes that person was alive when it happened. Yes you dipsheits will call it a conspiracy cooked up by the CIA to take attention away from the prison situation.
Of course the kid didn't move. The kid was in shock. Have you ever scared the living hell out of yourself and your body freezes.(scared stiff) If you never have, believe me it does happen. I'd say that having a bunch of masked ***-sticks video taping themselvs cutting your head off definatly falls under that category.
And as far as the so called "torture" of the Iraqi prisoners. STFU about it already. That is not tourture. Light hazing mabe. Christ, I've seen a hell of a lot worse happen to college kids pledging to get into a frat house. Grow a pair you bunch of pu$$ies. Someone should get in a time machine, go back and shoot all of your dumarse parents for letting you watch barney the gay purple dinosaur when you were children.
Thought I would leave this discussion alone, but your response made me think a bit harder about the tape. Here's what I think:
Whether the tape is real or fake, it sounds a lot more genuine than the footage Mr. Colin Powell had presented in the UN before the Iraq war.
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May 29th, 2004, 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by powdir
you don't ... trust me.
I'm sure we've all seen some pretty rotten stuff, right. Well this is the rotten-est stuff i have ever seen.
Then again maybe i'm sure a little squeamish when it comes to bowie knives, throats, windpipes and guys screaming like stuck pigs.
...but if your still curious then ogrish.com
I've seen worse.
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May 29th, 2004, 11:17 AM
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Member
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
And as far as the so called "torture" of the Iraqi prisoners. ......for letting you watch barney the gay purple dinosaur when you were children.
now Barney. That is bloody torture. When are the producers of that show going to be brought to justice?
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May 30th, 2004, 03:13 PM
#16
Member
Film was probaly the most fake thing I have ever seen in my life, and i've seen Pamela Andersons tits!
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May 31st, 2004, 10:08 AM
#17
New Member
Originally posted by Ex-FB
now Barney. That is bloody torture. When are the producers of that show going to be brought to justice?
The people responsible were being brought to justice long before the pictures were released and there was selected outrage. What I want to know is when the world is going to be outraged at the current mass slaughter that is going on in the Sudan. I wonder if the UN is going to sit this one out as they did with Bosnia and Rwanda. I guess genocide isn’t something to get outraged about.
As for the tape that was a real person and they did find his body beheaded by a bridge near Baghdad so it should lead you to believe the tape was genuine. Funny how some people believe all sorts of wild stories without any proof whatsoever but when they actually watch a tape of something with their own eyes they cant even believe its real. 
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May 31st, 2004, 11:49 AM
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Member
Originally posted by Xanith
The people responsible were being brought to justice long before the pictures were released and there was selected outrage. What I want to know is when the world is going to be outraged at the current mass slaughter that is going on in the Sudan. I wonder if the UN is going to sit this one out as they did with Bosnia and Rwanda. I guess genocide isn’t something to get outraged about.
As Khofi Anan has repeatedly stated, the UN is not meant to be the worlds police force, it is a forum for countries to communicate with one another, and if the UN backs a peace keeping force, then it merely means that the majority of countries in the world agree with the action taken.
I agree that something should be done about many evils in the world, and the UN is the closest thing to being a world government that we have, but it is nowhere near as powerful as you seem to want it to be. I bet you would be the first person complaining if the UN decided to send 200,000 american troops into the Sudan without your presidents agreement. The UN is ran by the individual governments of the world, would you prefer it if Khofi Anan was the world ruler and could wield the worlds armies as he sees fit? It seems to suit your purpose that the US can veto votes when they try to condem the Isreali's for carrying out terrorist attacks.
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Jun 1st, 2004, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by DeadEyes
I'm sure MasterBlaster you wouldn't mind being one of the 30 people "hazed" to death.
If you've seen worse being done to kids getting into a frat house then thats a sad reflection on your society.
No One was hazed to death. Get your facts straight. They were being prepared to be questioned, not tourtured to death.
"And most of the evils of society can, in fact, be cured through information. We have a society that has been disinformed and based on the disinformation has made irrational choices. And that's what I mean by 'ignorance.' People, who ordinarily might be smart, are deprived of the data by which to make a rational decision, don't have the data to do it."
Frank Zappa
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Jun 1st, 2004, 01:19 PM
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Actually, there are on-going investigations of numerous deaths during interrogations in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The number cited seems to be about right. Now, it is possible that all these people died of natural causes at that inopertune moment, but I find it hard to believe.
MB, you gotta come out of the cave on this one, this story has been in the news a fair amount for the last week or so. It doesn't get the top billing of the prisoner abuse, but it gets enough.
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Jun 1st, 2004, 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Shaggy Hiker
Actually, there are on-going investigations of numerous deaths during interrogations in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The number cited seems to be about right. Now, it is possible that all these people died of natural causes at that inopertune moment, but I find it hard to believe.
MB, you gotta come out of the cave on this one, this story has been in the news a fair amount for the last week or so. It doesn't get the top billing of the prisoner abuse, but it gets enough.
I live in no cave, I was refering to the pictures of so called "prisoner abuse" that are plastered all over the press. As far as the 30 something prisoner deaths are concerned, no one posting on this forum knows what the hell happened and have not seen pictures of prisoners being beat to death by Americans. Mabe they were, mabe weren't tortured to death who knows. When the investigation results are made public, and they will, someone can argue on that point. As of now, none uf us have a clue *** we are talking about regarding that investigation.
I highly doubt one of those prisoners died of natural causes. Remember they were POW's. They could have had multiple gunshot wounds, diseases from the field ect.... Nothing natural about that, just a side effect of war. If the investigation proves that healthy prisoners were killed directly by the actions of American Military Police, then DeadEyes has grounds to argue that point. Until then I'll stand by my implied statement that he is full of donkey sheit.
Last edited by MasterBlaster; Jun 1st, 2004 at 03:59 PM.
"And most of the evils of society can, in fact, be cured through information. We have a society that has been disinformed and based on the disinformation has made irrational choices. And that's what I mean by 'ignorance.' People, who ordinarily might be smart, are deprived of the data by which to make a rational decision, don't have the data to do it."
Frank Zappa
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 07:49 AM
#22
Well the Pentegons figures state 37 people died in prison in Iraq and Afghanistan. And in a few of the cases the army pathologist placed the cause of death as homicide.
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 07:52 AM
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 08:03 AM
#24
Addicted Member
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
After seeing the video, all i have to say is thanks to UK and Spain for supporting the Coalition. Yes i am from bush country.
more accurate to thank the GOVERNMENTS of UK and Spain - the people might have a different view of things (the Spanish public have already made theirs quite clear)
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 08:08 AM
#25
Lively Member
Originally posted by powdir
more accurate to thank the GOVERNMENTS of UK and Spain - the people might have a different view of things (the Spanish public have already made theirs quite clear)
Yes the goverments of UK and Spain made the right decision.
We will be right behind the Spanish Leaving Iraq.
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 08:15 AM
#26
Addicted Member
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Yes the goverments of UK and Spain made the right decision.
i would argue (but not today!) that they made the wrong decision and since it's MY government (in name at least) i win. Also the former spanish government also clearly made the wrong decision since it cost them the vote.
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 08:23 AM
#27
Lively Member
No i mean they made the right decision for Humanity bro.
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Jun 2nd, 2004, 11:54 AM
#28
Addicted Member
Originally posted by DeadEyes
Well the Pentegons figures state 37 people died in prison in Iraq and Afghanistan. And in a few of the cases the army pathologist placed the cause of death as homicide.
I'm not saying you guess is wrong, I'm saying neither of us have a clue what happened yet. Personally I could give two shiets what happened. Funny how they call a death in a prison "homicide" when the US is dropping bombs and shooting people there on a daily basis. Aren't both sides comitting mass murder already? What's the differance?
"And most of the evils of society can, in fact, be cured through information. We have a society that has been disinformed and based on the disinformation has made irrational choices. And that's what I mean by 'ignorance.' People, who ordinarily might be smart, are deprived of the data by which to make a rational decision, don't have the data to do it."
Frank Zappa
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Jun 23rd, 2004, 08:47 PM
#29
Addicted Member
Originally posted by mendhak
I want the link.
Here your link
Last edited by g-mie; Jun 23rd, 2004 at 08:57 PM.
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Jun 23rd, 2004, 08:51 PM
#30
Addicted Member
For this case, US army was kill Berg. And then they just cut head of dead body.
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