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    Exclamation Finally: something new!

    I got this for h/w today:

    If a, b and c are non-zero real numbers, and -
    a, b, c, are in arithmetic progression
    a, c, b, are in geometric progression
    Find a numerical value for the common ratio of the geometric progression.

    I keep getting two equations with 3 unknowns in...
    Not at all related to sheep...

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    I don't know if this is any help at all, but I can prove that b>=c by the following:

    Let d be the common difference in arithmetic sequence a, b, c. Let r be the common ratio in geometric sequence a, c, b.
    b=a+d=a*(r^2)
    c=a+2*d=a*r
    By AM>=GM,
    (a+b+c)/3>=(a*b*c)^(1/3)
    Substituting values for b and c:
    (a+a+d+a+2*d)/3>=(a*a*(r^2)*a*r)^(1/3)
    a+d>=ar
    Thus,
    b>=c
    Merry Math Making!

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    This also means that d<=0, and a>=b.
    Since a>=b>=c, and a, c, b are in geometric progression,
    (-1)<=r<0. The logic behind this is that, since from a to c, the terms declined, and from c to b, the terms grew, so r must be non-positive. Since a, b, and c are non-zero, r cannot be 0, so r is now negative. And if r<-1, b>a, which is not true, so, by contradiction, r>=-1.

    Since r cannot be 1, a<>b<>c, thus, a>b>c and d<0.

    We now use the following equations:
    a*(r^2)=a+d (1)
    a*r=a+2*d (2)
    (2)-(1):
    d=a*r-a*(r^2)
    d=a*r*(1-r)
    We know that d<0, therefore,
    a*r*(1-r)<0
    r<0, and 1-r>0, therefore,
    a>0, b>0, and c<0.
    Last edited by Kalkewl8ter; Sep 17th, 2002 at 06:37 PM.
    Merry Math Making!

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