vb6 - mourir a Madrid

[johnywalker]

I 'm afraid vb6 is in its last throes if not already dead.
I tried to install in windows 11, it went in after a struggle but then damaged the system.
It caused blue screens.
The service people tried to fix the blue screen, I tried too and after many efforts we decided it was the vb6.
My pc, reformatted now, does not do blue screens.

Up to windows 10 things were ok, but not with windows 11.
Do you have anything to suggest ?

I 'm looking for a version compatible or nearly compatible so I can make migrations.
Eleven years ago I used the vb.net 2004 edition.
I finished a big job but I did not do code migrations with it and in the end I did n't like it so I reverted to vb6.
What is your advice ?

[Arnoutdv]

No problems using VB6 on Windows 11

[fafalone]

It's extremely unusual for anything besides dodgy drivers to cause a bluescreen... seems incredibly unlikely it was vb6. The installation will fail if you don't follow appropriate instructions... but that just leaves vb6 broken, not the OS kernel.

VB6 can certainly be installed on Windows 11; a lot of people here use it. But if you're looking to move forward in something more modern, you have two options:

1) twinBASIC, which is aiming for backwards compatibility with vb6. It runs a lot of code right now, even massive and complex apps like PhotoDemon and commercial apps like XYPlorer and commercial components like iGrid. It adds a huge number of new language features and modernizations. But it is still in Beta; there's some minor missing features like in-project UserControl property pages and less common control properties/methods; cant make ActiveX Exes or import reports, and only a few of the common controls (mscomctl.ocx/comctl32.ocx) have native replacements (though the existing ocxs can be used and Krool's VBCCR works and has x64 support). And there's quite a few bugs. It's coming along very nicely and there's new bug fixes and features nearly every day. There's a free community edition with virtually no limits.

2) Rewrite from the ground up, in a new language, with popular options based on an entirely different approach to programming. You'll be using something more popular and mature, but no code and only basic skills transfer.


For me, I find 1 far preferable... the good things more than outweigh the current temporary drawbacks.

[johnywalker]

It's extremely unusual for anything besides dodgy drivers to cause a bluescreen... seems incredibly unlikely it was vb6. The installation will fail if you don't follow appropriate instructions... but that just leaves vb6 broken, not the OS kernel.

The blue screen was about drivers but that was not the real cause.
With the HP assistants we checked several times and further the various cures from the guru sites did n't work.
We decided the culprit was the (troublesome to install) vb6.
Now we formatted the disc for a second time but this time I did not attempt to install vb6.
There was a smaller problem with sound as well. In the videos when someone said "aaaa" as part of a word or just "aaa" it was heard like parasite noise.
Now for three days no problem.

About the vb6 installation:
If I do it, it proceeds seemingly normally but towards the end computer hangs.
Then after forced shut down and restart I will find it working but it will cause the problem.

If you know a way out pls tell me - I 'll risk having to reformat the pc a third time.
I did call microsoft as well but only once. These folks had no idea. They asked me to do something with the command prompt, then said "reformat".


p.s. Twin basic is ransomware. Other languaage you like - which one ?

[Episcopal]

So far, all good here... Win11_VB6.

[johnywalker]

So far, all good here... Win11_VB6.

Ok. Did your pc hang when you were installing it ?

[fafalone]

Ok well it sounds like you're installing some really weird stuff, possibly a malware loaded pirate copy.

If you want to install VB6 get a legitimate copy then follow the instructions on this forum or various other sites for installing on Windows 11.

Calling twinBASIC ransomware is demented, irrational, and objectively false. What did you also manage to find some weird malware site with a claimed cracked ultimate license or something? If so, cool, that's a sign of popularity
Official site - Official GitHub - Official releases.


"With the HP assistants we checked several times and further the various cures from the guru sites did n't work."

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[VB6 Programming]

p.s. Twin basic is ransomware.

What?

twinBASIC is a new VB6 compatible language that can import existing VB6 source code and run it. It has a modern IDE and many new features such as 64 bit compilation.

The twinBASIC programming language and IDE is the best way forward for those of us with large (commercial) apps written in VB6.

twinBASIC offers a free Community Edition or paid for Professional and Ultimate Editions.

twinBASIC installs easily on Windows 10 and 11.

It is certainly not "ransomware", where would you get such an idea?


See:
https://www.vbforums.com/forumdisplay.php?108-TwinBASIC
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....-Beta-releases
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....goes-twinBASIC

https://github.com/twinbasic/twinbasic/releases
https://github.com/twinbasic/documen...BASIC-Features

https://nolongerset.com/tag/twinbasic/
https://nolongerset.com/tag/twinbasic-weekly-update/

https://10tec.com/activex-grid/
https://discord.com/invite/UaW9GgKKu...olongerset.com

https://twinbasic.com/

[johnywalker]

What?

twinBASIC is a new VB6 compatible language that can import existing VB6 source code and run it. It has a modern IDE and many new features such as 64 bit compilation.

The twinBASIC programming language and IDE is the best way forward for those of us with large (commercial) apps written in VB6.

twinBASIC offers a free Community Edition or paid for Professional and Ultimate Editions.

twinBASIC installs easily on Windows 10 and 11.

It is certainly not "ransomware", where would you get such an idea?


See:
https://www.vbforums.com/forumdisplay.php?108-TwinBASIC
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....-Beta-releases
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....goes-twinBASIC

https://github.com/twinbasic/twinbasic/releases
https://github.com/twinbasic/documen...BASIC-Features

https://nolongerset.com/tag/twinbasic/
https://nolongerset.com/tag/twinbasic-weekly-update/

https://10tec.com/activex-grid/
https://discord.com/invite/UaW9GgKKu...olongerset.com

https://twinbasic.com/

It's pay per month, therefore ransomware.

[johnywalker]

Ok well it sounds like you're installing some really weird stuff, possibly a malware loaded pirate copy.
If you want to install VB6 get a legitimate copy then follow the instructions on this forum or various other sites for installing on Windows 11.
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It's legit.
Accepts the serial, proceeds, then hangs.

[zx81sp]

It's legit.
Accepts the serial, proceeds, then hangs.

Fitst, I guess that PC is not in good condition. Anyway you can't install a legit VB6 in Windows 11 without some mods in the install process. Exactly, how you're trying to install it?

You can have Windows 11+VB6 running perfectly but need some extra work after and before (service pack, latests patches, etc).

[johnywalker]

Fitst, I guess that PC is not in good condition. Anyway you can't install a legit VB6 in Windows 11 without some mods in the install process. Exactly, how you're trying to install it?

You can have Windows 11+VB6 running perfectly but need some extra work after and before (service pack, latests patches, etc).

It's a new pc, under guarantee and HP service looked at it.
In fact the case is still open but today we will close it.

What is this extra work, in detail ?

[fafalone]

It's pay per month, therefore ransomware.

First of all, it has a free community edition. The only restrictions are splash screens on x64 binaries and LLVM optimization is disabled. That's it. If you're staying in VB6 then you're not getting 64bit support at all.

Second, "ransomware" is a virus that encrypts your files then demands payment to get your data back. Maybe it's a translation issue but I have no idea how you'd make it unless you were already trying to call it malicious software simply because it has a paid premium version.

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It's a new pc, under guarantee and HP service looked at it.
In fact the case is still open but today we will close it.

What is this extra work, in detail ?

Search for 'install vb6 on windows 11'

[johnywalker]

First of all, it has a free community edition. The only restrictions are splash screens on x64 binaries and LLVM optimization is disabled. That's it. If you're staying in VB6 then you're not getting 64bit support at all.

Second, "ransomware" is a virus that encrypts your files then demands payment to get your data back. Maybe it's a translation issue but I have no idea how you'd make it unless you were already trying to call it malicious software simply because it has a paid premium version.

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Search for 'install vb6 on windows 11'

MS office too is ransomware and this twin basic "community edition" is not downloadable - maybe it used to be.

[wqweto]

MS office too is ransomware and this twin basic "community edition" is not downloadable - maybe it used to be.

Where can't you download it from? Did you try github repo's releases tab?

cheers,
</wqw>

[vbrad]

With regards to complied VB6 code.
What I have notice lately are more random hard crashes i.e. without even an unhandled error message, in code that's run for years without issue.
Everything freezes for a moment and then the app crashes silently.
It's not all that common but it's definitely become more frequent and is very disconcerting.

[fafalone]

MS office too is ransomware and this twin basic "community edition" is not downloadable - maybe it used to be.

It's downloadable, I posted

the link

. It's still there, download works.

Also words have meanings. Just because something isn't 100% free even for the premium version doesn't make it a criminal extortion tool.

What do you do for a living? Are you unemployed? If not I can only assume you're ransoming your boss by expecting to be continually paid for your work.

[zx81sp]

MS office too is ransomware and this twin basic "community edition" is not downloadable - maybe it used to be.

Obviously, you're making a very creative interpretation of what ransomware means. Neither MSOffice nor Twinbasic are ransomware. Twinbasic is downloadable, just google it, go to the github repo and download the latest version.

I prefer to use VB6 instead TB since it's still in beta version, but sometimes it do the job so you can give it a try.

[johnywalker]

It's downloadable, I posted

the link

. It's still there, download works.

Also words have meanings. Just because something isn't 100% free even for the premium version doesn't make it a criminal extortion tool.

What do you do for a living? Are you unemployed? If not I can only assume you're ransoming your boss by expecting to be continually paid for your work.

PPM is ransomware.
A price tag of $250 or even $350 might be reasonable.
Perhaps you have heisted a bank or two and you don't care.

[zx81sp]

It's a new pc, under guarantee and HP service looked at it.
In fact the case is still open but today we will close it.

What is this extra work, in detail ?

No matters if it's a new pc or not, you mentioned you've reinstalled the OS from scratch and it's still having issues, so that machine seems to have problems not related with extra software.

Search the forum for Vb6+Win11 and you'll find detailed instructions about how to install VB6 and which extra patches you must download from Microsoft to run it in latest W11 version.

[zx81sp]

PPM is ransomware.
A price tag of $250 or even $350 might be reasonable.
Perhaps you have heisted a bank or two and you don't care.

PPM is ransomware and the earth is flat. Two uncomfortable truth.

Honestly, since my English isn't very good, I think it's better if I just leave it.

Good luck.

[johnywalker]

No matters if it's a new pc or not, you mentioned you've reinstalled the OS from scratch and it's still having issues, so that machine seems to have problems not related with extra software.

Search the forum for Vb6+Win11 and you'll find detailed instructions about how to install VB6 and which extra patches you must download from Microsoft to run it in latest W11 version.

No. I reinstalled the OS and reinstalled VB6 and continued to have problems but with second reinstallation and without vb6 there are no problems.

[Arnoutdv]

PPM is ransomware.
A price tag of $250 or even $350 might be reasonable.
Perhaps you have heisted a bank or two and you don't care.

Can you stop shouting???

And no one is forcing you to take a subscription.
There is the community edition which is free...

Otherwise stay with VB6 or switch to .Net

[johnywalker]

PPM is ransomware and the earth is flat. Two uncomfortable truth.

Honestly, since my English isn't very good, I think it's better if I just leave it.

Good luck.

Google translates ransomaware as ... ransomware in most languages.

[johnywalker]

Can you stop shouting???

And no one is forcing you to take a subscription.
There is the community edition which is free...

Otherwise stay with VB6 or switch to .Net

Size 4 is not shoutng.
I had catarract and the surgeon managed to change my myopia to presbyopia !

[VB6 Programming]

MS office too is ransomware and this twin basic "community edition" is not downloadable - maybe it used to be.

I hesitate to post this since you obviously know far more than everyone else on this thread, however here goes....

1) Ransomware is a type of malware which prevents you from accessing your device and the data stored on it, usually by encrypting your files. A criminal group will then demand a ransom in exchange for decryption.

2) twinBASIC has paid versions and a totally free Community Edition which does more than VB6 and installs easily on Windows 10 and 11. It is downloadable, it always has been downloadable, you can download it now, and you have been given links to the download several times in this thread.

[johnywalker]

I hesitate to post this since you obviously know far more than everyone else on this thread, however here goes....

1) Ransomware is a type of malware which prevents you from accessing your device and the data stored on it, usually by encrypting your files. A criminal group will then demand a ransom in exchange for decryption.

2) twinBASIC has paid versions and a totally free Community Edition which does more than VB6 and installs easily on Windows 10 and 11. It is downloadable, it always has been downloadable, you can download it now, and you have been given links to the download several times in this thread.

It is when the vendor changes policy midway.
I know of a case where the complainant party won.
It involved aircraft batteries. The factory was paid for the batteries and for the know how for service / maintenance.
But then they wanted to renege on the agreement and make the client pay again.

[OptionBase1]

I 'm afraid vb6 is in its last throes if not already dead.
I tried to install in windows 11, it went in after a struggle but then damaged the system.
It caused blue screens.
The service people tried to fix the blue screen, I tried too and after many efforts we decided it was the vb6.
My pc, reformatted now, does not do blue screens.

Up to windows 10 things were ok, but not with windows 11.
Do you have anything to suggest ?

I 'm looking for a version compatible or nearly compatible so I can make migrations.
Eleven years ago I used the vb.net 2004 edition.
I finished a big job but I did not do code migrations with it and in the end I did n't like it so I reverted to vb6.
What is your advice ?

There's always shuffleboard.

[fafalone]

It is when the vendor changes policy midway.
I know of a case where the complainant party won.
It involved aircraft batteries. The factory was paid for the batteries and for the know how for service / maintenance.
But then they wanted to renege on the agreement and make the client pay again.

twinBASIC has never reneged on an agreement and if you stop paying for pro or ultimate versions, your data remains available and accessible, both as the unencrypted file it's saved as and as something you can continue to work on in the free version.

And it's far more likely that Microsoft breaks VB6 apps or drops support for the runtime than it is for twinBASIC to turn into some illegal malware.

[TysonLPrice]

No problems using VB6 on Windows 11

Ditto...no issues if installed properly. There are instructions in this forum.

[LorinM]

Why can't those suggesting also supply links to the suggested? Man hours wasted trying to find.

[Episcopal]

Ok. Did your pc hang when you were installing it ?

Since Windows 2000, nothing has ever happened. Except in Win10, where I had to remove DataAccess when installing (this would crash).

[OptionBase1]

Why can't those suggesting also supply links to the suggested? Man hours wasted trying to find.

Sorry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuffleboard

[fafalone]

Why can't those suggesting also supply links to the suggested? Man hours wasted trying to find.

You always ask things that are extremely easy to find by search. I don't believe that you're spending hours searching but couldn't find e.g. instructions for installing on 10/11. Have you not seen the search box top center of every page or the search tool top right and instead just read 10000 thread titles yourself?

[Arnoutdv]

Why can't those suggesting also supply links to the suggested? Man hours wasted trying to find.

site:vbforums.com install vb6 windows

[johnywalker]

Is this any good ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Hh...nel=FejLynTech

[Arnoutdv]

Video's??

https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....-on-Windows-11
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....=1#post5358025

[johnywalker]

This method:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Hh...nel=FejLynTech

is the same as here:

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-i...basic-windows/

Maybe it worked until last year but not anymore.
Got as far as step 4 but in the newer version of Windows 11 there are no longer compatibility troubleshooters.

[johnywalker]

This is getting bizarre.
Microsoft has replaced the troubleshooters with "get help".
What is this "get help" ?
A box opens and you are asked to leave your phone number.
Did that, they called back almost the same instant.
Explained everything to the assistant, then he says to me "we have no idea" !
Then he said "try the dedicated forums", i.e. this one I suppose.
That's Microsoft 2025 !

Now I presume what the XDA installation guide wants us to do is run in XP service pack 3 compatibility.
That's what they expect the (non existent anymore) compatibility troubleshooter to do.
So I try the file properties properties of SETUP.EXE.
But no compatibility tab there.
I declare full control again no compatibility tab.
I go to gpedit.msc and request for compatibility tabs not to be hidden.
Again nothing !
Then I saw a trick somewhare and did this:
Rename SETUP.EXE to something else - such as INSTALL.EXE.
This made the compatibility tab show !
Crazy.
But I 'm not running it as INSTALL.EXE, I don't know if that is ok. Should I ?

And what about service pack 3 ? Should that be installed in advance ?


I don't know what the end result will be.
Months ago I ran setup without any of those precautionary methods and resulted in bork installation, blue screens every day.
After reformatting it became apparent the bork installation was to blame.
I don't know if this new attempt will succeed but at least I want to follow the rules.

[Arnoutdv]

No. I reinstalled the OS and reinstalled VB6 and continued to have problems but with second reinstallation and without vb6 there are no problems.

Why dumping all those links if you told us you got it working with 2nd reinstallation??