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Oct 15th, 2024, 03:16 PM
#41
Re: Post election prediction
If you don't like em don't read em, it is what it is for all those years I don't intend to change so you can check your mark on the benevolence member forum behavior. If you don't like it take it to the mods.
It not a matter of like or dislike, it's just an observation.
...See haven't started the tease yet and you are irritated. Take it easy.
Not irritated, what we post here doesn't have that kind of importance. But I will take it easy, I prefer easy.
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Oct 15th, 2024, 03:51 PM
#42
Re: Post election prediction
Alright.
Yes a small thread inside a coding forum will not make any difference,nevertheless I enjoy reading some particular posters. Also I don't think I laugh in expense of others nor make fun off.With a couple of exceptions that the "fight" was mutual so insults taken insults given.
OK and Moti but he banned me so he cannot see my posts. 
It's always preferable to take it easy, if not, well 3 attempts on Trump and counting
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 15th, 2024, 04:17 PM
#43
Re: Post election prediction
It's looking like the election is going to be a mess. I hadn't realized that election certification was already a problem. I had seen several reports of some states trying to make it easier not to certify the results. But I thought the fact that despite all the efforts of Trump and his supporters no evidence was ever found to support their claims that the certification issue wouldn't be a factor. I was wrong. It's gotten worse. I read this today, https://www.npr.org/2024/10/15/nx-s1...fication-rules The judges ruling wasn't what bothered me, it was the fact that election officials in Georgia have already been refusing to certify various election results.
Add this to the alleged illegal purging of voters and it's sort of hard to see this election not turning into chaos no matter who wins.
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Oct 15th, 2024, 05:07 PM
#44
Re: Post election prediction
it's sort of hard to see this election not turning into chaos no matter who wins
Wrong...only if Trump loses...
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Oct 15th, 2024, 08:01 PM
#45
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
Wrong...only if Trump loses...
We'll have to wait and see. I can see the Dems protesting the results over the voter rolls being purged. Or any other perceived infraction. I think Trump opened those flood gates and both sides will use it if possible. Though, I do think the Republicans more actively trying to rig the results.
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Oct 15th, 2024, 10:31 PM
#46
Re: Post election prediction
I transcribed this from a Bloomberg Trump interview. I had a little time. 
John Micklethwait: You talked a lot about tariffs. You look at the American economy—40 million jobs rely on trade. It accounts for 27% of GDP.
Trump: Okay.
John Micklethwait: If you cut that off, that's also going to have an effect on many, many business people here.
Trump: Yeah.
John Micklethwait: Tariffs also have another side. Isn't that something that you have to acknowledge?
Trump: No...
John Micklethwait: You could be plunging America into the biggest trade war—
Trump: —No...
John Micklethwait: Since—
Trump: —But there are no tariffs.
John Micklethwait: You're going to stop... you're going to... there are tariffs already.
Trump: There are no tariffs. All you have to do is build your plant in the United States and you don't have any tariffs.
John Micklethwait: But people—
Trump: —This is not a lie.
John Micklethwait: There are a lot of places like this. They rely... there are a lot of jobs that rely on foreigners coming here. You're going to basically stop trade with China.
Trump: No...
John Micklethwait: You're talking about 60% tariffs on that. You're talking, as you said, 100–200% on things you don’t really like. You’re also talking about 10–20% tariffs on the rest of the world. That is going to have a serious effect on the overall economy. And yes, you're going to find some people who would gain from individual tariffs. The overall effect could be massive—
Trump: —I agree. I agree it's going to have a massive effect. Positive effect. It’s going to be a positive, not a negative.
John Micklethwait: Well, just... just—
Trump: —Let me just... no, no. Let me... I know how committed you are to this. And it must be hard for you, you know, spending 25 years talking about tariffs as being negative, and then having somebody explain to you that you're totally wrong. It’ll have a neg— (Audience laughs) It will have—
John Micklethwait: —40 million—40 million
Trump: —I’ll go a step further. If you don’t do this—
John Micklethwait: —40 million jobs is a lot of jobs to rely on.
Trump: They’re all coming back. You lost—
John Micklethwait: —There’s 40 million jobs… There are 40 million jobs in America that rely on—
Trump: —Are you ready? John Deere, great company—they announced about a year ago they're going to build big plants outside of the United States, right? They're going to build them in Mexico.
John Micklethwait: You threatened them.
Trump: They’re also gonna build… That's right. I said, if John Deere builds those plants, they're not selling anything into the United States. They just announced yesterday they’re probably not going to build the plants, okay? I kept the job, jobs here. And I’ll keep the... John Deere will stay here. And I’ll tell John Deere, if you do build outside of the United States, you can if you want. For instance, India is a very tough country. It’s not only China, you know. China is, is the, I would say, probably the toughest. But there—there are a lot of tough... You know what’s very tough? The European Union. Our beautiful European countries—wonderful, wonderful. If you add them up, they’re almost the size of us. They treat us so badly. We have a deficit. I said to Ongala Merkel, when she was there—she's not there anymore, I wonder why—(Audience laughs) But when, when she was there, I said to Ongala “How many Chevrolets do we have in Berlin?" "Why, Donald, uh, you have none." I said, "That’s right." "How many Fords do we have in Frankfurt?" "Uh, I don't know, none." I said, "That’s right." You know how many cars we have? Mercedes-Benz… BMW… All of the different—Volkswagens. Millions and millions of cars. And then I said, "Farm products." You know they don’t want our farm… they don’t want anything from us. We have deficits that are, are crazy. We’re not going to have them anymore. We’re going to put tariffs on them and they're going to do... and you know what they can do? The Mercedes-Benz will start building in the United States. And they have a little bit, but you know what they really are? Assembly, like in South Carolina. But they build everything in Germany, and then they assemble it here. They get away with murder because they say, "Oh yes, we’re building cars." They don’t build cars. They take them out of a box and they assemble them. We could have our child do it.
John Micklethwait: Could we, could we come back —
Trump: —but you saw… but, yur, yur—
John Micklethwait: —let’s come back to the Europeans in a second. What about consumers?
Last edited by Peter Porter; Oct 16th, 2024 at 08:42 PM.
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Oct 16th, 2024, 12:39 AM
#47
Re: Post election prediction
People just don't want to admit that the Parties are transitioning to different constituencies and policy positions.
This is why monsters such as the Cheneys, Romneys, Bushes, etc. are endorsing Harris (actually the machine behind her of course). At the same time moderate voices like RFK Jr, Gabbard, Ruben Diaz Sr, Gloria Romero, Gary Doty, Jack Brewer, rank-and-file workers - even in unions, Amer Ghalib, and on and on have endorsed Trump.
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Oct 16th, 2024, 12:55 AM
#48
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
Wrong...only if Trump loses...
You seem to forget the Summer of Chaos when the Biden Loves Mayhem terrorists burned cities and killed innocent people across the country while Biden hunkered in his basement egging them on.
He blamed his mother, claimed bi-polar disease, claimed a COVID test drove him mad. Maybe the dog ate his homework too?
This is the face of the left to decent people.
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Oct 16th, 2024, 03:28 AM
#49
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by wes4dbt
We'll have to wait and see. I can see the Dems protesting the results over the voter rolls being purged. Or any other perceived infraction. I think Trump opened those flood gates and both sides will use it if possible. Though, I do think the Republicans more actively trying to rig the results.
The republicans have been proactively preparing to dispute the elections for years now. Passing laws and putting key people in place. I just see democrats fighting them on that. The two sides are taking two different approaches. One is, guess who, trying to limit the votes of people that traditionally vote for democrats.
Here is an example of a recent attempt by republicans to disrupt the election that failed:
Georgia judge blocks requirement that counties hand-count ballots
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ction-results/
Last edited by TysonLPrice; Oct 16th, 2024 at 06:42 AM.
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Oct 16th, 2024, 12:48 PM
#50
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
It's always preferable to take it easy, if not, well 3 attempts on Trump and counting 
I'm not sure if you can count the third one, though I admit that I haven't kept up with any recent news on it. The guy was part of one of the militias that tend to support Trump, though he was a member of one that is less likely than some. I don't see why anybody would be surprised that somebody like him was at a Trump rally, or that somebody in that group was well armed, so is it really surprising that he was both at once?
I can understand why the Secret Service was alarmed, but is there any evidence that he was trying to kill Trump? It seems more likely that he was hoping to kill anti-Trump protesters, or the police, or nobody in particular. Those Sovereign Citizen guys have a 'different' view of the world. It's hard to characterize their views.
My usual boring signature: Nothing
 
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Oct 16th, 2024, 01:50 PM
#51
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
The republicans have been proactively preparing to dispute the elections for years now. Passing laws and putting key people in place. I just see democrats fighting them on that. The two sides are taking two different approaches. One is, guess who, trying to limit the votes of people that traditionally vote for democrats.
Here is an example of a recent attempt by republicans to disrupt the election that failed:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ction-results/
I'm aware of the strong push by Republicans to reduce the amount of likely Democratic voters and their attempt to portray the voting process as a flawed system.
As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats use the Republican actions as a reason to contest the election results if they lose.
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Oct 16th, 2024, 02:08 PM
#52
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I'm not sure if you can count the third one, though I admit that I haven't kept up with any recent news on it. The guy was part of one of the militias that tend to support Trump, though he was a member of one that is less likely than some. I don't see why anybody would be surprised that somebody like him was at a Trump rally, or that somebody in that group was well armed, so is it really surprising that he was both at once?
I can understand why the Secret Service was alarmed, but is there any evidence that he was trying to kill Trump? It seems more likely that he was hoping to kill anti-Trump protesters, or the police, or nobody in particular. Those Sovereign Citizen guys have a 'different' view of the world. It's hard to characterize their views.
The guy does seem much more likely to be a Trump supporter. His online footprint seems to all be pointing to being a Trump supporter. But you never know with guys like this. I don't know how to classify guys like this, delusional, unstable....?? But trying to pass through a check point using a fake pass and weapons in your car isn't a well thoughtout plan.
I watch this live police show sometimes and I've seen several people have tried to use the "I'm a sovereign citizen" as a defense for things like not having a drivers license. It never works but somehow a lot of people have been convinced it's a valid position.
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Oct 16th, 2024, 04:39 PM
#53
Re: Post election prediction
Here, you can add another thing to the list. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...nts-rcna173692
Ever since Musk recently started getting heavily involved with stumping for Trump. I've had the feeling that would make the difference in the election. It was close before but Trump has made up ground recently.
Maybe we should let all countries be governed by AI. Would be an interesting experiment.
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Oct 17th, 2024, 03:30 AM
#54
Re: Post election prediction
Probably not the ones with Nukes tho (skynet)
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 17th, 2024, 07:13 AM
#55
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by wes4dbt
I'm aware of the strong push by Republicans to reduce the amount of likely Democratic voters and their attempt to portray the voting process as a flawed system.
As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats use the Republican actions as a reason to contest the election results if they lose.
I'm not arguing other then the methods each will use.
I think the difference is if the democrats exhaust legal means they will stop. Last time after that failed for the republicans they tried to subvert the election itself illegally. They are better prepared to do it this time. Big difference...I don't think you will see democrats rioting at the Capital or sending fake electors to congress.
Last edited by TysonLPrice; Oct 17th, 2024 at 07:34 AM.
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Oct 17th, 2024, 08:13 AM
#56
Re: Post election prediction
Is 5 November the correct election date?
It's getting close...
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 17th, 2024, 12:01 PM
#57
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
Is 5 November the correct election date?
It's getting close...
Yeah. So far there has been a high turnout for early voting. I mailed mine on Tuesday.
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Oct 17th, 2024, 12:26 PM
#58
Re: Post election prediction
Early voting opens for us Monday next week (Oct 21) ... I'm off next week, so I might take advantage of that and cast early.
-tg
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Oct 17th, 2024, 01:14 PM
#59
Re: Post election prediction
Is mail voting safe in US?
In Greece the mail voting favored the 1st party (if I'm not mistaken got 40+% and it's real voting was 28%) also the patriotic party got 2% and it's real people attendance was 10% .
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 17th, 2024, 01:32 PM
#60
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
Is mail voting safe in US?
In Greece the mail voting favored the 1st party (if I'm not mistaken got 40+% and it's real voting was 28%) also the patriotic party got 2% and it's real people attendance was 10% .
Never seen any evidence that it isn't safe. Been voting by mail for over 20yrs. Trump was spreading lies about it was unsafe but that was because he knew Dem's tend to vote by mail more than Reps. His minions tend to vote in person.
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Oct 17th, 2024, 01:35 PM
#61
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by dilettante
(actually the machine behind her of course).
I hope this time around Americans don't allow themselves to be brainwashed by that machine. We are all counting on you Americans to do the right thing and vote Trump into office so we can have some stability out here in the rest of the world. This Kamala Harris person just ain't it. The Democrat party isn't it. Sorry to say.
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Oct 17th, 2024, 03:42 PM
#62
Re: Post election prediction
We are all counting on you Americans to do the right thing and vote Trump into office so we can have some stability out here in the rest of the world.
It's funny to hear Trump and Stability in the same sentence. I've never seen any provoke more chaos than Trump. That's been his defining characteristic. Well, that and dishonesty.
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Oct 17th, 2024, 04:03 PM
#63
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Never seen any evidence that it isn't safe. Been voting by mail for over 20yrs. Trump was spreading lies about it was unsafe but that was because he knew Dem's tend to vote by mail more than Reps. His minions tend to vote in person.
Aha. And what evidence have you seen that it is safe?
Bear in mind that am negative biased due to what happened in Greece but would be good to read how are people sure that what they mail actually is what it is count.
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 17th, 2024, 04:31 PM
#64
Re: Post election prediction
Aha. And what evidence have you seen that it is safe?
How do you know any form of voting is safe? There are rules and regulations and people that oversee to make sure they are followed.
I'd say recently the biggest confidence boost to the safety of our vote came at the hands of the Republicans. After Trumps lies about voter fraud, thousands of them where desperately searching for fraud. They were unsuccessful.
So I have not reason to assume my vote isn't safe.
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Oct 17th, 2024, 05:02 PM
#65
Re: Post election prediction
They kind have those lawyer and party representatives that fly over the ballots like craws. Craaww Craaww! You know?
But as you say, they are rules and regulations and people oversee to make sure they are followed, yes that is sold evidence.Sorry for asking, people oversee, the ..Thing.. Anyhow if you feel safe you are probably safe.With the..The, that...Ah and Trump with his lies make the remote voting safe. At least he did something right.. The...With the thing that oversee and the rules...Yes. Yes thank you for setting this thing straight, I can go to sleep safely now...The, you know that one.. The thing...Mm ehmm?
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 17th, 2024, 08:11 PM
#66
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
They kind have those lawyer and party representatives that fly over the ballots like craws. Craaww Craaww! You know?
But as you say, they are rules and regulations and people oversee to make sure they are followed, yes that is sold evidence.Sorry for asking, people oversee, the ..Thing.. Anyhow if you feel safe you are probably safe.With the..The, that...Ah and Trump with his lies make the remote voting safe. At least he did something right.. The...With the thing that oversee and the rules...Yes. Yes thank you for setting this thing straight, I can go to sleep safely now...The, you know that one.. The thing...Mm ehmm?
You can be an obnoxious wise arse if you want, but I thought you asking a sincere question. Instead of stating what you think is wrong and why, you post childish dribble. My mistake, I shouldn't have answered your question.
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Oct 18th, 2024, 02:50 AM
#67
Re: Post election prediction
I was actually hinting you to at least accept that it might be a possibility of a fraud. Followed by a bad display of humor.
And why? I will tell you why.
CP is ripping his flesh that they are preparing to rig the elections. Post after post and link after link he is prepared for that.
You on the other hand admit that everything was fine and always be fine with the election. You both vote for Dems and that is hilarious.
So in the outcome that Trump wins you will not be able to say anything against Trump victory, I will quote you, post 10035877 answer 60. Whenever you try to say anything about it...Quote! Like a ninja!
CP can growl and protest all that he wants, you won't be able to say a word. It will be like..
CP: Arrrrr rig! War! Fraud!!! ARGGG!
wes ...........^bib^.......
CP:Count again! Judge banish! Hell! Arrgg!!!
wes.......^bib^.........Now that I think of it....SWOOSH!!!Ninja quote!!
So you made your own bed.
I was asking a sincere question btw and I got a not sincere answer or if that was sincere, a completely gullible answer. I...I...Overreacted
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 18th, 2024, 02:59 AM
#68
Re: Post election prediction
Who is CP???
You on the other hand admit that everything was fine and always be fine with the election.
No, I said I haven't seen any evidence that my vote is not safe. I don't know what the future will bring.
So you made your own bed.
You obviously haven't seen my bed. And that's a good thing on several levels. lol
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Oct 18th, 2024, 04:49 AM
#69
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Who is CP???
No, I said I haven't seen any evidence that my vote is not safe. I don't know what the future will bring.
You obviously haven't seen my bed. And that's a good thing on several levels. lol
Sorry CM, the person above.
OH so you might see evidence if Trump gets elected? Make up you mind. You haven't seen any evidence you might see evidence, what is this? The wheel of fortune? Lol
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 18th, 2024, 05:26 AM
#70
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
I don't think anyone here hates immigrants btw , I can speak from Greece so.
They are too many. We are heavily overpopulated.
Immigrants mostly do nothing here just get the 500 Euros check per month. We don't have that much of agriculture. 1-2mil immigrants could dig a canal from Greece to Calais.
Criminal rate. Again I've wrote that 60% of jails have foreigners but taken in consideration that it's 10% of the population, you get the idea.
The cannot be accumulated, see previous threads, Albanians etc
Most crossing now are young Muslims. I won't go to say that most of them are ready to be given the order when a war with Turkey happens as you seem not to except that but I would say that a lot of them have been arrested and proven as Turkish agents. Our idiots of a government just send them back to Turkey so they come back again.
There is no war on the regions they are coming from and the big question is why do they come from a Muslim state to a Christian state and not going to their rich Arab states that are closer and share the same customs?
Those countries seem not to want them so they are Racist and Xenophobes, non?
And Shaggy wrote Syria so that was waaay off but also they are passing from Italy from Africa from our North borders and pushed back from Europe as our prime idiot-traitor have an agreement to accept every one of that as long as we get some money.
Also that idiotic idea, that stupid idea that if we ever speak of an immigration problem we are racists. From what I can see racists are all the people that do not accept other people talking about immigration and immediately label them.
Also seen wes board I think that immigration racist remarks must be shifted the other way around as white people are not the majority.
So, do I tolerate immigration? Yes. Do I think the initial immigration on region wars was just? Yes. Do I think we are heavily over immigrating? Yes. Do I think that there is a mass immigration that will eventually change the country origin, religion and state in general? Yes.
That does not mean I will go our screaming, kill all humans. We have means to stop the immigration like stop giving free houses and money, don't let everyone pass through without cross check (immigrants offend found on official papers giving 3-4 names and origin but they pass in anyway) share with other countries, especially same Muslim religion countries and at least block our ground borders to the north.
Sapator, you know you're an [REDACTED], don't you? Your north ground borders are with Bulgaria and we are almost in Schengen Area, you racist communist old man yelling at the sky.
Same bulshit Trump supporters perpetuate in US but w/ EU colors i.e. mixed with Putin propaganda for good measure. That's what leftist and ex. communists in EU are rendered to -- talking heads of Putin. And Trump too, which is weird.
cheers,
</wqw>
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Oct 18th, 2024, 05:40 AM
#71
Re: Post election prediction
What?
Did not understand anything. Btw our North Borders are with Bulgaria, Albania, Skopje and Turkey (north east).
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 18th, 2024, 08:40 AM
#72
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
Harris will initially win the popular vote and the electoral college. Then we will spend, I don't know how long, time on court challenges and the like. Most will be as idiotic as 2020 but the groundwork has been laid in a number of red states to challenge the results. There will be all kind of hair pulling, me included, and I can't predict how the court challenges will work out. If the republicans mange to force the house to decide. Trump will win. If it goes to the republican supreme court, Trump will win.
Can you turn this into a polls?
- Harris Wins Popular Vote and Electoral College
- Trump Wins Popular Vote and Electoral College
- Harris Wins Popular Vote and Trump Wins Electoral College
- Trump Wins Popular Vote and Harris Wins Electoral College
If you can't, my vote is #3.
Harris is ahead nationally in the polls by <2% and Trump is ahead <1% in all but one of the swing states. Consider that historically Trump overperforms in the polls comes election day, that is why I'm confident that he wins the electoral college but loses the popular vote.
The betting markets more or less agree with betting odds of Trump at 58% and Harris at 40%.
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Oct 18th, 2024, 09:00 AM
#73
Re: Post election prediction
bleh... I think a poll has to be the root thread ... can't be created as a reply ...
I'm going to go with #1... but only just barely... Of course I then expect it to be held up in court all the way through the inauguration in January too... It's obvious Trump isn't going to let it go without a fight of some sort.
-tg
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Oct 18th, 2024, 09:36 AM
#74
Re: Post election prediction
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 18th, 2024, 12:14 PM
#75
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
These are good for taking the pulse of the people so to speak, but I wouldn't count on it to predict the outcome of the election. I can't speak for anyone else but after all I've seen, I wholeheartedly believe the Democrats will cheat to prevent Trump from taking office. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this though.
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Oct 18th, 2024, 01:02 PM
#76
Re: Post election prediction
They can't cheat. They are rules and regulations and people doing, something...Unless Trump wins, then there are no rules and regulations and he cheated.
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Oct 18th, 2024, 01:14 PM
#77
Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by sapator
They can't cheat. They are rules and regulations and people doing, something...Unless Trump wins, then there are no rules and regulations and he cheated. 
lol.....so true
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Oct 18th, 2024, 01:18 PM
#78
Re: Post election prediction
That is said on both sides. When Trump won in 2016 democrats claimed it was because of Russian interference or misinformation in general, but when Biden won in 2020 republicans said it was because of mail in votes or mass drop offs of invalid ballots.
Not taking a side, just pointing out that this isn't unique to just one party.
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Oct 18th, 2024, 01:56 PM
#79
Re: Post election prediction
OH so you might see evidence if Trump gets elected? Make up you mind. You haven't seen any evidence you might see evidence, what is this? The wheel of fortune
I never said anything close to that. You seem to have a hard time understanding what is said.
No, I said I haven't seen any evidence that my vote is not safe. I don't know what the future will bring.
Let me break it down for you.
1. I haven't seen any evidence that my vote is not safe.
2. I can't predict the future. Which means if tomorrow someone provides evidence that mine or anyones vote is not safe then I could change my opinion.
There is no mention of Trump. There is not mention of me changing my mind depending on who wins.
I wholeheartedly believe the Democrats will cheat to prevent Trump from taking office.
Yeah your not alone. Trump has been spreading that theory for over four years and has manager to convince a certain segment of people that it's true. Though they can't provide any proof, they believe it's true purely on suspicion and unsupported accusations. Sort of like the Salem Witch Trials. lol
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Oct 18th, 2024, 02:07 PM
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Re: Post election prediction
 Originally Posted by dday9
That is said on both sides. When Trump won in 2016 democrats claimed it was because of Russian interference or misinformation in general, but when Biden won in 2020 republicans said it was because of mail in votes or mass drop offs of invalid ballots.
Not taking a side, just pointing out that this isn't unique to just one party.
That's a fair point. That's why I said earlier that no matter who wins there a good chance this election ends in chaos.
It's a shame, it's really starting to weaken voter confidence. You already got both sides claiming election fraud.
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