Post election prediction

[sapator]

(After cursing at the cookies shown for the 4th time and made me do a reject all again)
What is expected is for the people that are swinging left or right , the sold out sheep idiots, 4th and Madison based show me the money useless retards are to shift from one party to the other based on who is in power and engulf (the party's) it's ideas , at least for 4 years.
That has nothing to do with left or right.
What we might want to see is:

A)Dems will change been WOKE boys so they can win the next elections and then, be WOKE boys again or remove the WOKEness plague on the process
B)People start to realize what was going on and that they have been mesmerized by WOKERs
C)The new administration to implements what they are saying
D)The rabbit hole would realize the 'unreal' stories they are feeding us here for 4 years and thanking us for waking them up (not WOKEING them up)...The latest is the most difficult.

Have a nice weekend and God bless America.
A few days to go now. Hope nothing happens

[Niya]

Foreigners exposed to North American politics hands-on bypassing the media narrative are getting red-pilled very rapidly.

No lies were spoken here!

[OptionBase1]

Biden pardons Hunter. I thought no means no, no?

[Niya]

Biden pardons Hunter. I thought no means no, no?

Hypocrisy is a standard feature of modern liberal regimes and establishments in the West.

[OptionBase1]

Hypocrisy is a standard feature of modern liberal regimes and establishments in the West.

I read the statement Biden gave. I would say there is bipartisan agreement that Hunter was treated differently in the Gun/Drug case and that some random dude would never have been charged given the same circumstances - many Republicans have said so publicly that it was by all appearances a political prosecution.

But all of that has been a known quantity for a long time, and both Joe Biden himself and KJP continued to say a simple, firm, and conclusive "No" when asked if he was going to pardon Hunter.

I somewhat expect to see some attempted Neo level dodging at the next White House Press Briefing, but I hope not. I hope KJP flat out comes out and says something as simple as, Joe changed his mind over Thanksgiving. Period. Don't try to justify it, or claim he didn't change his mind, or that he never ruled it out completely, etc. Just own it.

[Niya]

I hope KJP flat out comes out and says something as simple as, Joe changed his mind over Thanksgiving. Period. Don't try to justify it, or claim he didn't change his mind, or that he never ruled it out completely, etc. Just own it.

Ehhh....that doesn't sound like the way a Democrat or liberal would operate. It's more likely that they will come up with some meaningless word salad to explain it, their base would larp it up as if they were given the word of God while the podcast circuit will use it as content fodder for the next week to entertain the rest of us.

[TysonLPrice]

Here's the list Trump pardoned...no saints here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...%20the%20cases.

[sapator]

I'm against pardons.
Should only be used for death row.
Re-trail yes but not pardons.

[FunkyDexter]

I'm against pardons.

Me too! I find it bizarre that a President holds this power and it's wide open to corruption.

Edit> For clarity, I'm not against pardons as such. I just don't understand why the President holds this power arbitrarily. I'm not 100% sure it needs a full blown retrial, depending on the case in question, but it should certainly rest with the Judicial branch not the Executive.

Edit2> Except for turkeys. I'm fine with pardoning them.

[TysonLPrice]

The broad concept of governmental authority to provide relief from criminal punishment has deep historical roots. The power vested in the President by the Constitution traces its origins to authority held by the English Crown, leading the Supreme Court to look to legal principles underlying the latter in interpreting the scope of the former. A prerogative of mercy held by the King appeared during the reign of King Ine of Wessex (688–725 A.D.)6 and by 1535 had been declared by Parliament, during the reign of King Henry VIII (1509–1547 A.D.), as a right exclusive to the Crown. Though broad in application, the power as it existed through the colonial period did have legal limits, which grew in number in response to perceived abuses of the King’s authority. For instance, a pardon could not impair certain rights of third parties9 and, by act of Parliament in 1701, pardons could not be pleaded to bar impeachment (though a pardon following sentence was still available).

https://constitution.congress.gov/br...ALDE_00013317/

In the 18th century, George Washington granted the first high-profile federal pardon to leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion on his final day in office.

Trump often bypassed the OPA, and, unlike previous presidents, made the majority of his grants to executive clemency to "well-connected offenders who had not filed petitions with the pardon office or did not meet its requirements." Ultimately, of the 237 grants of clemency by Trump, only 25 came through the Office of ...

[sapator]

That reminded me of a scene on Erik the Viking, if anyone has seen the film when he says to only cut of his hand and the victim is graceful

[Niya]

By the way, the pardon is not the point. The point is the Democrats lied as usual.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zXToNz33myE

[FunkyDexter]

He has the right. Trump demonstrated that.

[TysonLPrice]

Here is a list of Trumps most egregious lies. He averaged around ten lies a day while in office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-in-one-place/

[sapator]

I was wondering if US president is allowed to pass any last month laws?
Is this customary a no?
In Greece the departed government usually pass all the traitorial legislations at the very last day of an open parliament so any opposition cannot be raised the next day.
Even if it could be raised after the elections, the other traitorial government that comes in, "ignores" what he was yelling about and go along.

[Niya]

Here is a list of Trumps most egregious lies. He averaged around ten lies a day while in office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-in-one-place/

Sorry, I'm not paying to read leftist propaganda. You got one that's not behind a paywall?

[sapator]

first off I was wave reading. I thought, why we talk about pardon , I did not realize that Sleepy pardoned his son. Or I'm missing something?

Also
"Through April 29, his 100th day, Biden has made 78 false or misleading statements"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...cker-100-days/

That is completely useless as it's game over but just for the heck of it.

[OptionBase1]

Here's the list Trump pardoned...no saints here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...%20the%20cases.

How many of those did Trump repeatedly state he would not pardon?

[OptionBase1]

Pardoned for any actions from January 1st 2014 through December 31st, 2024. Purge month for Hunter Biden!

[wes4dbt]

How many of those did Trump repeatedly state he would not pardon?

I'd say the point is it's selective outrage(not that you've been acting outraged). Politicians from both sides of the isle lying or changing their opinion isn't rare, it's barely news.

But since it's the Presidents son it will be given importance by the news for a few days.

[wes4dbt]

The broad concept of governmental authority to provide relief from criminal punishment has deep historical roots. The power vested in the President by the Constitution traces its origins to authority held by the English Crown, leading the Supreme Court to look to legal principles underlying the latter in interpreting the scope of the former. A prerogative of mercy held by the King appeared during the reign of King Ine of Wessex (688–725 A.D.)6 and by 1535 had been declared by Parliament, during the reign of King Henry VIII (1509–1547 A.D.), as a right exclusive to the Crown. Though broad in application, the power as it existed through the colonial period did have legal limits, which grew in number in response to perceived abuses of the King’s authority. For instance, a pardon could not impair certain rights of third parties9 and, by act of Parliament in 1701, pardons could not be pleaded to bar impeachment (though a pardon following sentence was still available).

https://constitution.congress.gov/br...ALDE_00013317/

In the 18th century, George Washington granted the first high-profile federal pardon to leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion on his final day in office.

Trump often bypassed the OPA, and, unlike previous presidents, made the majority of his grants to executive clemency to "well-connected offenders who had not filed petitions with the pardon office or did not meet its requirements." Ultimately, of the 237 grants of clemency by Trump, only 25 came through the Office of ...

So your saying we can blame this on the British. Cool!!

[TysonLPrice]

This was conveniently left out of the post #537 link that was pointing out:
"Also "Through April 29, his 100th day, Biden has made 78 false or misleading statements"

Biden 78, Trump 511:

[sapator]

Tho poster 537 don't give a rats banuka as said, it was for the heck of it as it's over.

And now I got a case of the dil's so in everyone's good health.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Tho poster 537 don't give a rats banuka as said, it was for the heck of it as it's over.

Just because the Whiskey Rebellion was mentioned, that's no excuse to post drunk.

[sapator]

It hurts huh?

I'll allow it from you but I don't drink from Nov till May as I don't like to drink at cold weather. You must accidentally mistaken me for Kamala.

Anyhooo. You are fifth https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ism-by-country , we are nowhere near you given the fact the we Ouzo the hell out (I don't like it, prefer beer but...) , so, I'm rubber you're glue

[FunkyDexter]

How many of those did Trump repeatedly state he would not pardon?

I'm not sure telling someone you're going to rob their house excuses robbing their house. Or that telling someone you wouldn't makes the robbery worse. The point is the robbery.

[Shaggy Hiker]

It hurts huh?

I'll allow it from you but I don't drink from Nov till May as I don't like to drink at cold weather. You must accidentally mistaken me for Kamala.

Anyhooo. You are fifth https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ism-by-country , we are nowhere near you given the fact the we Ouzo the hell out (I don't like it, prefer beer but...) , so, I'm rubber you're glue

I don't drink at all, nor did I really think you posted that drunk, but it sure was a confusing mash-up of thoughts and words, and I'm not above making a drug reference whether it is warranted or not.

Interesting link, though. I guess I'm kind of surprised at how high the US ranks on that list.

[TysonLPrice]

I don't drink at all, nor did I really think you posted that drunk, but it sure was a confusing mash-up of thoughts and words, and I'm not above making a drug reference whether it is warranted or not.

Interesting link, though. I guess I'm kind of surprised at how high the US ranks on that list.

But if you read the link the "5" is misleading. The US is actually 35th.

From the link:

The rate of alcoholism varies significantly among nations. While it might stand to reason that rates of alcoholism would correlate closely to overall alcohol consumption per country or possibly with drinking age by country, these correlations are not always present. For example, although consumption varies by state, Americans on average consume 9.9 liters of pure alcohol per capita annually (WHO, 2020), the equivalent of imbibing 33.0 handles (1,716.8 fluid ounces/50.75 liters) of vodka per person per year. This means that the U.S., despite being 5th on the list of countries with the highest rates of alcoholism, was only 35th on the list of countries with the highest alcohol consumption per capita in 2019 (CIA). The most recent data regarding alcoholism rates in each country was compiled by the World Health Organization, which recorded the percentage of males and females 15 years and above with alcohol use disorders in

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm not sure whether that counts as misleading or not. It certainly does change the interpretation, as we aren't the fifth most drunken country, but I'm still surprised at that 5th for alcoholism. I suppose that, taken together, it could mean we are high on the list of hypochondria, diagnosis of alcoholism, or treatment for alcoholism.

[wes4dbt]

Those stats are interesting.

The US isn't in the top 10 for men but is number 1 for women. Now we know who the trouble makers are. lol

it could mean we are high on the list of hypochondria, diagnosis of alcoholism, or treatment for alcoholism.

I think there's a good chance this is affecting the numbers.

I was surprised the South Korea was so high on the list. Not that I know much about South Korea, just not the perception I had.

[sapator]

I don't drink at all, nor did I really think you posted that drunk, but it sure was a confusing mash-up of thoughts and words, and I'm not above making a drug reference whether it is warranted or not.

Interesting link, though. I guess I'm kind of surprised at how high the US ranks on that list.

Buh you clearly insulted me as usual so I will not talk to you for one post. Unless the post is something magnificent.

A question here. We see a lot of data on US been a "fat" country. And that is nothing to be laughed about. Is that correct?
By my visit...I don't remember
My latest example was at the airport here, we had an office eating Friday and we ordered from the nearby airport (hopefully we will get the heck out of this distant area soon) fast fooderianrty.
I can't recall what it was, possible burger king as we only got one in Athens and it's an "American" shop, meaning high portions double refreshment for an xtra buck and so on.
Point is the meal was so much I could not finish half of it. It's like pushing you to buy "garbage" at a cheap price to get fat and addicted. Now once every 2 weeks or so, I don't mind to be a garbageer but as I'm thin due to my metabolism, I don't really crave food that much but others may get caught in that eating garbage marathon. I have a few example in my circle.

....And now we all know what comes next:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_obesity_rate

You are 13 there but is that accurate, give or take by your whereabouts? Greece been 38, hmm, maybe maybe not , probably down the list since we got that depression and people limit the extra food for other needs such electricity and water. Also I don't really trust WHO, that bunch of idiot fakevid arsmolkks.

[Shaggy Hiker]

A question here. We see a lot of data on US been a "fat" country. And that is nothing to be laughed about. Is that correct?
By my visit...I don't remember

Unfortunately, so many countries are catching, or passing, us in that regard that I'm not sure we count, anymore.

Point is the meal was so much I could not finish half of it. It's like pushing you to buy "garbage" at a cheap price to get fat and addicted.

I don't think the reason is to make people get fat, exactly. I think the reason is to make money. Still, you're essentially right. It has often been pointed out in the US, that cheap food is fattening, and rightly could be called "garbage". Good food is available, but often not in poor areas, and it costs more. Eating isn't expensive, but eating well can be.

I never know about those lists, but that one is probably about right. We shouldn't be #1 on that list, because we have lots of rich, fatty, foods, but we also have a whole lot of exercise culture, which should push us down the list a bit. So...#15 seems reasonable, especially with other countries passing us, as they do.

On the other hand, Trump lies about his weight, too, so perhaps we'll suddenly get thinner by following his example.

[TysonLPrice]

Unfortunately, so many countries are catching, or passing, us in that regard that I'm not sure we count, anymore.



I don't think the reason is to make people get fat, exactly. I think the reason is to make money. Still, you're essentially right. It has often been pointed out in the US, that cheap food is fattening, and rightly could be called "garbage". Good food is available, but often not in poor areas, and it costs more. Eating isn't expensive, but eating well can be.

I never know about those lists, but that one is probably about right. We shouldn't be #1 on that list, because we have lots of rich, fatty, foods, but we also have a whole lot of exercise culture, which should push us down the list a bit. So...#15 seems reasonable, especially with other countries passing us, as they do.

On the other hand, Trump lies about his weight, too, so perhaps we'll suddenly get thinner by following his example.

Drugs like Ozempic will change a lot of that but can be expensive...

https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...ange-the-world

I'll have to chew on that before I agree.

[Niya]

Context: In the wake of Donald Trump's victory a lot of very prominent leftists promoted BlueSky as a Twitter alternative, as in their view Twitter has become a right wing hellhole since Elon Musks's takeover. BlueSky is basically the left's version of Truth Social, a haven for the the far left.

[FunkyDexter]

Took me less than 10 seconds to debunk

Nobody on the left (or the right for that matter) is accepting of paedophiles. Except for actual paedophiles that is.

Your next play: cite Reddit's Left Wing Bias.

[sapator]

Takei is pedophile??!

[FunkyDexter]

Takei is pedophile??!

No, and I linked to a debunk.

But he is gay and to a certain subset of Alt Right people these are morally the same. They're not the same, but that doesn't stop some people.

He further has some background as he was sexually abused as a child himself. Which really only highlights just how sick that post was. (The linked post, not Niya's. Niya's was merely naively credulous)

Edit> Sorry, I accidentally edited Sappy's post instead of creating my own so this might have looked odd for a bit. My mistake and I've now restored it as was.

[techgnome]

No, and I linked to a debunk.

But he is gay and to a certain subset of Alt Right people these are morally the same. They're not the same, but that doesn't stop some people.

He further has some background as he was sexually abused as a child himself. Which really only highlights just how sick that post was. (The linked post, not Niya's. Niya's was merely naively credulous)

Edit> Sorry, I accidentally edited Sappy's post instead of creating my own so this might have looked odd for a bit. My mistake and I've now restored it as was.

I dunnno...I smell a cover up....

[Niya]

Took me less than 10 seconds to debunk

Nobody on the left (or the right for that matter) is accepting of paedophiles. Except for actual paedophiles that is.

Your next play: cite Reddit's Left Wing Bias.

Yea sure. Thing is, I've seen this kind of disturbing thing on the left too often to the point I don't even care anymore if some are false flags. I see something like that, I'm running with it.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I see it on the right, too. I still don't run with it.

It's like scissors: It cuts both ways, and don't run with it.