Post election prediction

[Shaggy Hiker]

I disagree with this. Clone Wars the animated series, the 2012 one not the 2008 one, was peak Star Wars in my opinion. It was Star Wars at its best. Clone Wars was among the last productions in the pre-Disney era. Nearly everything Disney made since they got their hands on it was absolute garbage. The Mandalorian and Andor are the only exceptions.

Ah, I never saw the animated series, so I have no opinion on that. I was only talking about the movies, which is all I've seen. The three trilogies and Rogue One....and perhaps that one about Han Solo, I think I saw that one, too.

If you're talking about The Force Awakens, I strongly disagree with this. That movie was one of the most trash movies ever made. It was just awful. Given how much of a Star Wars fan I was, I still gave the second one a chance and that one was even worse. I didn't bother to see the last one and never will. Disney turned me off Star Wars completely. Disney has no idea whatsoever why old school fans like me liked Star Wars in the first place. Until Disney sells the franchise I will never watch another one of their Star Wars productions ever again.

No, I was not talking about The Force Awakens. I was talking about the first Star Wars movie made, which I suppose was episode IV.

[wes4dbt]

No, I was not talking about The Force Awakens. I was talking about the first Star Wars movie made, which I suppose was episode IV.

Yeah, it's pretty confusing when talking about the episodes. Now they are calling the first one in 1977 Star Wars A New Hope.

[FunkyDexter]

which I suppose was episode IV.

Not when it was made it wasn't. It wasn't a New Hope either. It originally rolled out as just Star Wars. Lucas retconned the extra bits in later when he realised what a cash cow he'd created.

[Niya]

Ah, I never saw the animated series, so I have no opinion on that.

I highly recommend it if you're fan of Star Wars. In my opinion, it perfectly captures the essence of what Star Wars was meant to be. I'd even go so far as to say it captures it better than any of the films. It's a perfect blend of comedy, drama and world building. Really top notch work by the Lucasfilm team.

No, I was not talking about The Force Awakens. I was talking about the first Star Wars movie made, which I suppose was episode IV.

Ah ok.

The narrative structure you're talking about is called the Hero's Journey and it's a time tested framework used to ground a story in such a way that it has to potential to captivate people because it makes the story relatable. Every single person alive goes through the "Hero's Journey" in one way or another. Too bad no one told Katheleen Kennedy. Perhaps the Disney films wouldn't have been such utter garbage if she knew the basics of storytelling.

[sapator]

Come on Star Wars I was the worst of the bunch, it's the only episode that I don't ever watch. II was bad III was better , VII was relatively OK as the next ones . Also they butchered a little the originals by adding CGI characters but you can't view the originals in decent quality (meaning without tolerance of the CGI copies).

[Shaggy Hiker]

The narrative structure you're talking about is called the Hero's Journey and it's a time tested framework used to ground a story in such a way that it has to potential to captivate people because it makes the story relatable. Every single person alive goes through the "Hero's Journey" in one way or another. Too bad no one told Katheleen Kennedy. Perhaps the Disney films wouldn't have been such utter garbage if she knew the basics of storytelling.

I'd look at the animated series based on your recommendation, except that I'd have to admit that I haven't watched anything like that in...longer than I'd care to admit. Too much to do, too little time.

My understanding for the final trilogy was that there WAS a good story arc that had been developed. You can see that with the story lines being set up in VII. Then they switched directors, or writers, or some such, and the new team decided to go in a totally different direction with VIII. That made such a mess that trying to tie things up in IX was essentially hopeless...though they didn't give it a good try, anyways.

[Niya]

I'd look at the animated series based on your recommendation, except that I'd have to admit that I haven't watched anything like that in...longer than I'd care to admit. Too much to do, too little time.

It's a really damn good series but I think only Star Wars fans can truly appreciate it. It focuses very heavily on building on the Star Wars lore and it did it quite well.

My understanding for the final trilogy was that there WAS a good story arc that had been developed.

George Lucas's original plans certainly would have been good but as soon as Kathleen Kennedy got control, Star Wars was finished. She completely abandoned Lucas's ideas in order to use Star Wars as a platform to pitch her brand of feminism. Kathleen Kennedy and her cronies were more activists than showrunners and it shows. I really really liked the Star Wars brand and I gave her movies a genuine try. I have been looking forward to seeing them since they first announced it. We didn't have a Star Wars movie in so long. When it finally came, I was extremely disappointed. It was one of the most awful pieces of entertainment I had ever seen in my life. I still went ahead and gave the second movie a shot, hoping they fixed the problems with the first one but it turned out to be even worse. I just gave up after that. I didn't bother to watch the 3rd one or the Solo movie. These people have no idea how to write a compelling and entertaining story.

The only Star Wars movie under the Disney brand that wasn't complete trash was Rogue One. I don't really like it that much but it was certainly not a bad film. I just found it a bit boring and derivative. I felt that Rogue One underutilized the rich lore of Star Wars. It could have been so much better.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I had no positive expectations after episodes I through III. The first one couldn't decide on which audience they were going for, kids or adults. The second two were certainly better than that one, but they were certainly lightweight when it came to the plot. Perhaps miscast, too. I watched the final three because I'd seen the others, but I never expected much from them.