Post election prediction

[wes4dbt]

If I did that, I only mirror your behavior.

Also, if you're going to make an accusation like that, please tell me where in this thread did I call you or anybody any names?

Again you ask more from people than what you give. You did provide any examples. No.

Though I will clarify, I wasn't talking about you calling people on this forum names, I was talking about calling people that are on the political left names.

[Niya]

Though I will clarify, I wasn't talking about you calling people on this forum names, I was talking about calling people that are on the political left names.

You mean like you guys do with Trump and his supporters?

[wes4dbt]

You mean like you guys do with Trump and his supporters?

I'm outraged, no examples!!!

[FunkyDexter]

Just let it go. The woke nonsense doesn't fly any more.

Let what go? Repeatedly making you look foolish because you never bother to look into anything you post? Nah. It's just so easy and so much fun. Minimum effort, maximum reward. That's the woke way.

I would have explained the difference between the BBC and Media Action but PD annoyingly beat me to it. Ooooor.... you could have looked it up yourself. I tried it out as an experiment. Took less than 30 seconds. It's literally the top hit.

not upset about the corruption itself

Because it's not corruption. It's the USAID carrying out their mission statement. You may disagree with that mission but that's politics, not fraud. You really should learn the difference.

[PlausiblyDamp]

You're being very disingenuous here PD. These questions are loaded. You could have simply asked what I thought about Trump's handling of this disaster without colouring them with your own anti-Trump prejudices. I mean do you really expect me to answer these in good faith?

Feel free to answer in whatever way you see fit. Whichever way you look at it though, Trump used a tragedy that cost the lives of dozens of people and used it as a platform to spread lies that push his own personal agenda. Too bloody right I am anti-anyone who does that kind of thing, I would hope anyone would be against such an action!

Some of you need to face the fact that a lot of people like Trump and think the things he is doing is good. It's fine if you disagree but when you "reach across the isle" for dialog with such loaded rhetoric it helps no one and only serves to further hostility between people on both sides.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/ also shows a lot of people don't like him either. Also an awful lot of people who voted for him now seem to be quite unhappy with what he is doing.

[PlausiblyDamp]

Twitter has been ablaze with this USAID stuff. The most shocking thing I've seen is that the few people defending this are not upset about the corruption itself but that it's being exposed. Let that sink in. The people defending this are not mad about finding out that the previous administration has been wasting tax payer's money on nonsense, they are mad about it being exposed. I find that so wild.

None of this is corruption, this is what USAID was set out to do, and this information has been publicly available https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/a...opment?fy=2025 anyway. So if you can somehow describe finding information that was publicly available as "exposed" then you are stretching the language a fair bit!

Simply claiming people are angry about it being exposed is twisting the truth to suit your own narrative, people are angry that something that did a lot of good around the world is effectively being defunded by Elon Musk.

[wes4dbt]

Because it's not corruption. It's the USAID carrying out their mission statement. You may disagree with that mission but that's politics, not fraud. You really should learn the difference.

Are you sure??? Trump says there's corruption and fraud. Musk posted on X “a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America,”. That a couple of pretty solid sources for the truth. Plus, a lot of people on X are parroting them. That's another solid source.

It's to bad really, I wouldn't mind a department that looked into the inefficiency of federal agency spending. I also wouldn't mind having a honest discussion on how much we spend on foreign aid. I think more attention should be paid to our own needy. But there has been no honesty from Trump and Musk. And their followers are eager to parrot them and to spread those lies.

[TysonLPrice]

I wouldn't mind a department that looked into the inefficiency of federal agency spending.

You mean like DOGE?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...k/78299971007/

I say that with a lot of skepticism and doubt about that effort, but you asked and there it is

[wes4dbt]

You mean like DOGE?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...k/78299971007/

I say that with a lot of skepticism and doubt about that effort, but you asked and there it is

Yeah, I know what DOGE is suppose to be doing. My point was I think it could have been a good thing but that's not even close to what is actually happening.

[FunkyDexter]

Are you sure??? Trump says there's corruption and fraud. Musk posted on X “a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America,”. That a couple of pretty solid sources for the truth. Plus, a lot of people on X are parroting them. That's another solid source.

I cannot detect even a hint of sarcasm. Not a hint!

[wes4dbt]

Another oversight agency being neutralized https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-ac...151814753.html

Corporate American has a long history of worker and financial abuse when there's no oversight. This agency was put in place after the 2008 financial crisis. I doubt the morals of the corporate leaders have changed.

[dilettante]

I don't think this interval in history is going to be painless. Mistakes are going to be made and it has finally come at a time when things are already deeply screwed up.

The time for change in the US was the 1992 Election, but sadly too many sheeple were asleep. Remember, Reagan was elected by Democrats who defected from Carter's attempts to bring the Party nearer to where it was headed under JFK. This gave us the globalist duopoly.

Trump is doing what he campaigned on. His popularity is higher than ever, and he is uncovering corruption on a massive scale. Career Republicans haven't fooled me, but it does seem that quite a few really have gotten on board.

I hope we come out of this a lot better off than we went in. The alternative was impossible though. We were already far too deep down a rabbit hole of despotism trundling toward collapse. Playing the ID Politics card over and over again was the nadir, proving that Dems don't represent our interests.


Democrats suffer failure after MAJOR POLLING UPDATE



Social and political decline has hardly been just a US thing. It is all over the western world. So much coordination and collusion over such a long time can't be simply accidental.

[PlausiblyDamp]

Trump is doing what he campaigned on. His popularity is higher than ever, and he is uncovering corruption on a massive scale.

He is corruption on a massive scale!

[wes4dbt]

His popularity is higher than ever, and he is uncovering corruption on a massive scale.

47% probably is his highest ever approval rating.

But so far all I've seen is him claiming corruption and people parroting him

[FunkyDexter]

I don't think this interval in history is going to be painless. Mistakes are going to be made

There it is! You've been conditioned to accept whatever's coming and not question it. Biden gave you short term pain - you rejected that.

The promise wasn't pain. It wasn't mistakes. It was getting everything fixed "on day one". Hold him to that.

Failing to hold him to it is an acknowledgement that he's taken you for a sucker.

[sapator]

What are you implying?
That if he makes a mistake or a wrong call, all their voters are suckers? That would imply that all voters are sucker after the last voting of Abraham Lincoln.

[PlausiblyDamp]

What are you implying?
That if he makes a mistake or a wrong call, all their voters are suckers? That would imply that all voters are sucker after the last voting of Abraham Lincoln.

I think it is more that he promised an awful lot of things "on day one", got elected and walked back on nearly every single one of them before he had even set foot in the Whitehouse.

[sapator]

He got the checker BS
Immigration at starting point
tariffs
End the war in Ukraine ( that probably is in pack with Putin for a future date)
3rd sex removal, athletes , toilets etc
Stop funding on paid actors to support Ukraine , delve into finance of the war money
Remove from WHO
NATO less or equal money or leave the organization
Removal of wokers from key government place
Europe to slit it's woke pants and patriotic governments starting to emerge
And others that I might forget or not take in consideration So that is a good start.
I was posting one thing nearly every day here for a period so...

[sapator]

Also , from yesterday
https://apnews.com/article/trump-con...29e769ae6850e9

That reminded. me Has a law been passed that does not allow remote work?

[dilettante]

I suspect that Clintonites or whatever they call themselves these days are upset because they can't look in the mirror without seeing that they are America's crazy uncle in the basement. Their illusions have been shattered. Let the therapy begin.

[wes4dbt]

He got the checker BS

You keep claiming things about "checkers" Assume you mean fact checkers. There are still fact checkers.

What do you mean by that statement?

End the war in Ukraine ( that probably is in pack with Putin for a future date)

Your giving Trump credit for ending the war in Ukraine. Someone should tell the Ukrainians and Russians.

Stop funding on paid actors to support Ukraine , delve into finance of the war money

Who are these "paid actors" that you speak of??

Europe to slit it's woke pants and patriotic governments starting to emerge

What new governments in Europe are you talking about??

[wes4dbt]

Also , from yesterday
https://apnews.com/article/trump-con...29e769ae6850e9

I posted about that is post 1011.

That reminded. me Has a law been passed that does not allow remote work?

No

[sapator]

You keep claiming things about "checkers" Assume you mean fact checkers. There are still fact checkers.

I stopped reading after this statement, or something similar that was written before. The fact that Zucky told what he told and people here putting their head up and down screaming Koocoo Koocoo like nothing happened is beyond me, thanks to Einstein , I can only do this...

Pat,pat, patience be strong and gratefully depart until there are some news to post.

[wes4dbt]

I stopped reading after this statement, or something similar that was written before. The fact that Zucky told what he told and people here putting their head up and down screaming Koocoo Koocoo like nothing happened is beyond me, thanks to Einstein , I can only do this...

Pat,pat, patience be strong and gratefully depart until there are some news to post.

That's real convenient way not to answer any of the questions. But not surprising.

[PlausiblyDamp]

I stopped reading after this statement, or something similar that was written before. The fact that Zucky told what he told and people here putting their head up and down screaming Koocoo Koocoo like nothing happened is beyond me, thanks to Einstein , I can only do this...

Pat,pat, patience be strong and gratefully depart until there are some news to post.

So you are deliberately remaining ignorant, and acting superior... If that is what keeps you happy, then carry on patting yourself on the back.

[wes4dbt]

This is an interesting concept. https://apnews.com/article/eric-adam...850709c99bf666

This person is to busy to be held accountable for their crimes.

“The pending prosecution has unduly restricted Mayor Adams’ ability to devote full attention and resources to the illegal immigration and violent crime,” Bove wrote

It pays to suck up to Trump.

[FunkyDexter]

This person is to busy to be held accountable for their crimes.

This feels kinda like an extension to the high court ruling saying that any act carried out by the President can't be criminal because it would interfere with his ability to carry out the job. I stand by that as a dumb as rocks argument but this just extends that principle further down the ladder. Once you say that an official function necessitates criminality, all rules are gone.

[Shaggy Hiker]

That's a move from Putin's playbook. As long as the people below you are sufficiently corrupt, they have to toe the line to stay out of prison. Once their existence depends on your forbearance, you own them.

[wes4dbt]

That's a move from Putin's playbook. As long as the people below you are sufficiently corrupt, they have to toe the line to stay out of prison. Once their existence depends on your forbearance, you own them.

That's an interesting point.

An extension of that is, if a country is heavily reliant on you assistance then they can be manipulated. Jordan is a current example.

[sapator]

As I wrote

Donald Trump’s call with Vladimir Putin brought the Russian leader in from the cold as they hatched plans to end the war in Ukraine and agreed to swap presidential visits.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was not included, in an alarming sign for the government in Kyiv. Zelensky was at the center of everything the Biden administration did on the war. Trump did call Zelensky later Wednesday

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-relati...050046052.html

Someone told the Ukrainians and the Russian.

[sapator]

Let the games begin.

Senate to vote on vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s bid to become nation's health secretary

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-vo...051927672.html

[sapator]

NATO's Rutte says that Ukraine was never promised NATO membership.
Hegseth rules out NATO membership for Ukraine and says Europe must be responsible for country’s security.

Makes some blush for their previous comments non?
What was the war for? What Ukraine was promised?
Yeah some will start the excuses but deeply you know you made a zoing.

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20...ato-membership
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/p...hip/index.html

[wes4dbt]

Makes some blush for their previous comments non?

????

What was the war for?

Because Russia invaded Ukraine.

[PlausiblyDamp]

NATO's Rutte says that Ukraine was never promised NATO membership.
Hegseth rules out NATO membership for Ukraine and says Europe must be responsible for country’s security.

Makes some blush for their previous comments non?
What was the war for? What Ukraine was promised?
Yeah some will start the excuses but deeply you know you made a zoing.

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20...ato-membership
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/p...hip/index.html

Oh god, I feel utterly embarrassed that I allowed
Russia to invade Ukraine! That decision was a major zoing on my part.

[sapator]

How do you make a gullible rabbit hole leftish?
You throw them a "carrot"
Changed your tune wes , right? Did Trump spoke with Russia and Ukraine? Hum wes? Tell us wes? Find more excuses wes? Say some whatevers wes say whatevers, you guys have zero knowledge of politics and you play Gods here. And ONLY here. Feel free to write more irrelevant comments. Gods and Jesus Christ is on our side (food for irrelevant comments).
The other dude is Woked , so , pat pat, there there. lol

No I don't think I will answer your upcoming comments I'm deliberately remaining ignorant, and acting superior. Boil in your own juice now.

[PlausiblyDamp]

How do you make a gullible rabbit hole leftish?
You throw them a "carrot"
Changed your tune wes , right? Did Trump spoke with Russia and Ukraine? Hum wes? Tell us wes? Find more excuses wes? Say some whatevers wes say whatevers, you guys have zero knowledge of politics and you play Gods here. And ONLY here. Feel free to write more irrelevant comments. Gods and Jesus Christ is on our side (food for irrelevant comments).
The other dude is Woked , so , pat pat, there there. lol

No I don't think I will answer your upcoming comments I'm deliberately remaining ignorant, and acting superior. Boil in your own juice now.

Wow, coming from someone who spouts all sorts of irrelevant comments, and admits to not bothering to read articles that is a pretty pathetic attitude to throw at another forum member.

Throwing the word 'woke' around as if it is an insult has all the impact of a small child describing everything they don't like as 'poo' - it takes the same amount of critical thinking and effort.

Carry on paying yourself on the back, spouting your irrelevant nonsense, and acting as if somehow you have pulled some master stroke in winning an argument.

Willful ignorance isn't a strength, despite what the more extreme right wing people believe.

[wes4dbt]

Changed your tune wes , right?

No. I know I'm not much of a singer but I'm consistently bad.

Did Trump spoke with Russia and Ukraine? Hum wes? Tell us wes?

Yes he did. So what???

Find more excuses wes?

The me what for and I'll do my best.

[TysonLPrice]

Throwing the word 'woke' around as if it is an insult has all the impact of a small child describing everything they don't like as 'poo' - it takes the same amount of critical thinking and effort.

I like that, that is just what a lot of the right do...

[Niya]

[Niya]

They aren't even trying to hide what they're doing:-


Large scale social deception. Wonder what that means???