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    Re: Trump's "Stormy" next few weeks/months

    Quote Originally Posted by TysonLPrice View Post
    As of now at least, three GOP senators have now helped Trump skirt a gag order that the judge insists is necessary to protect his proceedings and its participants from harm. The gag order is in place to protect the judicial system and the people participating in it. I shows the low character of the people we elect to such important positions. US senators acting that way really lowers my opinion of them, and that didn't seem possible anymore.

    Add speaker Johnson to the mix...he said he came to speak as a concerned citizen, repeating what Trump wants him to

    The Vice President audition continues.
    Unfortunately it doesn't lower my opinion of them. Their behavior doesn't surprise me. Most the GOP has become Trump's lackies out of fear, been that way since he was president.

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    I wonder what's going on with the Supreme Court. I'm starting to have a hard time justifying the length of time the court is drawing out making a decision on the immunity issue. They put scheduling the hearing for months ands now they aren't making a decision for weeks. I know there no such thing as a completely unbiased person but this is starting to look like an overt effort to help Trump by the court. It's not a good image. Also, bad news for our country. We need at least one institution we can believe in. I haven't agreed with all the courts decision but I really never thought they were "picking sides". Now I'm not sure.
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    If it still works the way it did when I did a case study on SCOTUS a number of years ago, here's how it works:
    It starts with an open submission period. This is when potential cases are submitted to the court for review.
    While cases are still coming in, the court goes through the submissions and decides which ones they will hear during the next session.
    At some point, submissions are closed. The calendar is then created for the cases that were accepted. People are notified.
    The next several months, they hear the cases from both sides... Some deliberation will start immediately, and court clerks and paralegals are sent their research tasks.
    Meanhwile they continue to hear more cases until they are done.
    Some cases can be done in and out, and a ruling is released. But more often than not, deliberations and discusions go beyond the arguments stage and could take weeks or months before a decision is handed down.

    In this case, it's that discussion & deliberation phase that they are dragging out. And yes, they are probably doing it for political reasons. They don't want to be the ones that hand down a decision that trumps Trump's ability to run... so they sit and "talk" about it... and drag it out, until it's too close to the election, or just after the election. I wouldn't be surprised if the decision is released 4pm on Nov 15 ( a Friday) ... I also wouldn't be surprised if it works out like this: Trump wins the election, the majority rules in his favor. Biden wins, the ruling is against TRump (because then that would also limit what Biden can do.)



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    Re: Trump's "Stormy" next few weeks/months

    Maybe I just pay more attention to these types of things nowadays but I don't remember SCOTUS ever being this openly political.

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    Until more recently they weren't. The last two or three nominations kind of changed that.

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    Re: Trump's "Stormy" next few weeks/months

    Quote Originally Posted by techgnome View Post
    Until more recently they weren't. The last two or three nominations kind of changed that.

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    This is interesting. I always assumed that you needed unanimous consent from the jury for a conviction but I did jury service a couple of months ago and it turns out you don't. Our jury was split 10 to 2 and nobody was moving. The judge advised that that was sufficient and the conviction was recorded.

    I honestly don't know if this is a UK only thing, I don't even know if it was a Crown Court only thing, but it might not be as simple as a single juror being able to save him.
    I know I'm late to the party, but in Louisiana we allowed for non-unanimous convictions up until 2018ish. At one point, it actually allowed for a 9-3 conviction but it changed to 10-2 for my whole lifetime up until it was change to unanimous.

    The non-unanimous conviction law was enacted back in the 1800's as a direct result of the reconstruction period. The idea is that when a black person is on trial they could stack the court with majority white with one or two blacks to make it look legit, but then not need the one or two votes in the minority to still get a conviction.

    Ah, I just looked it up. It was changed in 2018 and passed 64.35% (938,182 votes) to 35.65% (519,731 votes).

    I remember this very clearly because I was super active in my libertarian party affiliate (we do them at the parish level) and I did some door knocking campaigns to try and get out the vote.

    The unfortunate thing was that the law was not retroactive, so we still have people service life sentences on 10-2 convictions.
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    Re: Trump's "Stormy" next few weeks/months

    I didn't even know this was a thing. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ers-rcna152809

    At least not on a business level.

    The thought of paying money to sit in court amuses me. I think most people are more likely to pay money NOT to go to court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    If you're really fat, can you charge double?
    You might be able to round up.
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    I didn't even know this was a thing. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ers-rcna152809

    At least not on a business level.

    The thought of paying money to sit in court amuses me. I think most people are more likely to pay money NOT to go to court.
    They aren't actually going to court... they're saving spots in lines for others - usually journalists or other gawkers.

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    Re: Trump's "Stormy" next few weeks/months

    Quote Originally Posted by wes4dbt View Post
    I didn't even know this was a thing. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ers-rcna152809

    At least not on a business level.

    The thought of paying money to sit in court amuses me. I think most people are more likely to pay money NOT to go to court.
    Here is a lady that turned it into a business:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/prof...ks-2022-2?op=1
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