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    A WAN that never returns a 404 error

    G'Day Guys

    Easters almost here & I promised myself I would spend more time on a project I'm starting to wonder if IT is even possible in VB6

    I have a .au direct domain http://5o.au - sub-domains I have already created are

    http://visit.barossa.5o.au & http://park.pv.5o.au

    But, if a person types

    http://coles.5118.5o.au <- This return 404 error currently - No Sub-dom

    into a browser I want AI to generate the HTML / CSS / JS in RT & return what we call a Go Page.

    - 1st issue - coles isn't a sub-dom of 5118, ITs not in any DNS server - SOLVED
    - 2nd issue - No index.html exists on any web servers hard disk - SOLVED
    - 3rd Issue - Having AI generate the same style Go Pages in RT from temples - Prototyping - N O T S O L V E D !!!

    BTW - In the Australian postcode region 5118 these are 2 x Coles stores, Olde coles & New Coles, I want the AI to return a page that uses Google Maps Directions to show the user how they get from their current location for both stores, with Oldes Coles in top 50% of page & New Coles in bottom 50% of page

    The VB6 language is sxxt at AI

    Should I be using C Plus Plus socket programming or Python or ?

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    Re: A WAN that never returns a 404 error

    Sorry Admins, this is in codebank, pls. move to 'General'

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    Re: A WAN that never returns a 404 error

    As no-one has responded at all, I feel compelled to ask...AI = Artificial Intelligence?

    VB6 does not "sxxt" at AI, the coder is always the one at fault here. VB6 can't do the things Python or other more recent languages can do, as VB6 was abandoned long before AI even became the thing it is now and doesn't have the infrastructure required. This is where the coder comes in.

    I feel you're asking too much of the language, and should be using another language where 99% of what you need has already been done for you...VB6 is not that language. It is doable, and a decent programmer can achieve pretty advanced intelligence within their code, but it is almost always with THEIR code rather than piggybacking on someone else's infrastructure. Code that they have spent many months working on, most often.

    What you're asking isn't even an AI-related question, it's simply a matter of parsing or scraping the data and generating the content based on the results...definitely doable, but again you have to write the logic yourself.

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    Re: A WAN that never returns a 404 error

    G'Day SmUX

    Thanks for the really prompt reply

    Yes - AI is AI !!!

    Read understood , but I don't agree - when I started programming AI , python didn't exist, but I had VB6 & Excel

    We have to 'farm-out' to google for

    - Business Profile
    - Street View
    - Map Directions

    So maybe I can find value in the latest ???? AI ' U R L ' submission - batch mode - ' brain storming here ' ????

    I note you didn't recommend any python discussions on here eg. https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....hon-discussion

    I started writing ( ABC ) Assembler , Basic & C ~50 years ago using mark sensitive cards for a target DEC PDP / 11 so don't need any lessons in logic !!!


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    Re: A WAN that never returns a 404 error

    I didn't recommend any python discussions because I am not a Python programmer...would you trust a vegan's recommendation of a bacon sandwich?

    You say you have had 50+ years of experience, yet you dismiss VB6 as being unable to handle AI. You also mention pathing AI above, and I wrote a speedy implementation of the A* algorithm (one that was theoretically able to solve the Travelling Salesman problem). In QBasic, 20+ years ago, with plans to have it ported over to VB6 for a friend to use in their app, without having any understanding whatsoever of pathing algorithms or the A* algorithm (I called it a spider algorithm, as it essentially spidered out in a web from one point until it reached the target point). It could be argued that this wasn't in VB6, as I wrote it in QBasic, but I could implement it now. It does require pre-determined nodes with distances between node calculated, but it really is speedy. No use to you probably (and I don't have the code, so it isn't available, I just COULD write it again) but it is an example of weak AI that VB6 can handle. With a little bit of extra work, VB6 could also take in a map and calculate the nodes and distances itself. This is all fairly easily doable with a little bit of legwork. It's also essentially how Google does its pathing, A* is one of the algorithms used.

    You say you're an experienced coder, but you ask the most basic of questions (to me at least) without knowing the answer, and you refer to parsing as "AI". Even intelligent parsing is little more than brute force processing of data. I don't see why you feel you *had* to farm out to Google for all the information you needed, when all of those and tons more are possible within VB6 if you are willing to put in the time to do the coding.

    It seems to me what you are doing is asking other people to help you do the work you can't be bothered doing yourself (or perhaps hoping others have done the work and are willing to share...that's what the codebank is for)...good luck with that.

    If you are however asking if AI can be created in VB6 that can take a website and, through generative AI, work out how to parse the site...that's a different matter, and while it is doable the limitations of VB6 means that it will be either slow or very clunky.

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