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Sep 27th, 2023, 11:41 AM
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Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
We should not be prejudiced against these countries.We just comment on a country's naval strength purely from the perspective of military economy, um, various angles.
First, Russia's economy is not good, so it has no money to buy warships from other countries.
Second, he always wanted to build it himself, but the technology was very backward.
Sometimes, if the technology is not enough, it depends on the quantity.
For example, Ukraine has many missile interception systems provided by the United States and other countries, as well as, ah, missile launching systems.
Once the Russian ships are attacked. Because the defense system is so poor, 10 missiles can only intercept 7.
That is to say, it is impossible to achieve almost 100% interception, so that a warship that costs $100 million may be destroyed by, ah, a $2 million missile.
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Sep 27th, 2023, 12:24 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
Meanwhile the Marines recently lost an $80M fighter jet. Over land. As it was flying past an Air Force Base. Had they spent just an extra $25 for an AirTag... they would have known where it was at all times. They did find it eventually, in a lake, but it still took over two days...
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Sep 27th, 2023, 12:34 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
The picture shows the new dock excavated by Russia for the maintenance of Kuznetsov. The facilities are very simple.
Therefore, for Russia, which does not attach great importance to the navy, the existing fleet and the new generation of warships under development can basically meet Russia's needs for naval operations at this stage. There is no need to spend more money for the navy. After all, Russia's air force and strategic rocket army are the key points. The money for building an aircraft carrier for the navy is enough to buy 100 new fighters, and Russia can still figure out this account.
Therefore, it seems that Russia will not introduce warships from other countries in the short term.
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Sep 27th, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
When the military strength is too poor, sometimes we can only choose to escape.Russian aircraft carriers, ah, or large warships stay. The waters near Ukraine are likely to be attacked by their shore-based missiles.A missile of one or two million dollars can attack tens of millions of dollars. Large warships are too cost-effective.
Some time ago, I saw the news that the Russian warship was parked in the dock for repair or rest. As a result, two ships were blown up, and the loss was more than 100 million yuan.
Even if there is no complete explosion, the holes are very large, the repair is very difficult and the cost is very high.The point is, are you going to continue the repair there? There will be a second and third attack.
Many years ago, when the Japanese invaded China, China also had some technology support from Germany at that time. The fighter unit has two or three hundred small planes.Originally, they hoped to import technology and open their own aircraft factory, but they would only provide some simple repair technology, and would never give us the real aircraft manufacturing technology.
As a result, the Japanese, ah, simply bombed once or twice, and blew up all these planes. This also required a lot of costs, and all the products that could only be bought in US dollars were gone.
If it's a fair war, even if we use 260 planes, ah, all of them are killed and exploded, but we can shoot down the other side's 50-80 planes. No shame.
The difference in technological strength is so great that the expensive weapons we have will only be used as targets by others and have no power to fight back.
In a real aircraft carrier group war, there are many frigates and aircraft around an aircraft carrier.Neutral aircraft carriers are hard to attack. At the same time, it has a powerful anti-missile system.
The current war between Ukraine and Russia is equivalent to the United States and Germany using the latest missiles or other weapons to confront these backward weapons of Russia 50 or 80 years ago.
As far as I know, Russia's military strength and their economic level are only equivalent to the economic strength of Guangdong or Jiangsu provinces in China.A country without money, coupled with some wrong military guidance, is really in the face of war. Only to be beaten.
It is really impossible to end the war between Russia and Ukraine.
What we can do now is how to reduce the loss of war.
I often see some wild dogs. Or privately, they, ah, take down a Buffalo that is more natural than before.The wild dogs got into the concrete and ate the meat.
The simplest thing is that the wild dog only needs to bite the Buffalo's head and testicles, and he can win directly.Or pull the liver and intestines out of a Buffalo. She Niu usually does not exercise his legs at all. His strength directly kicks those lions or wild dogs to death. Their cow feet are almost useless. They are usually just tools for fighting for their mates. When they encounter these walls that want to eat their meat, they have no defensive power.
Therefore, it is impossible to fight a war with too great a difference in military strength.At that time, the German rooster occupied almost the whole of Europe, leaving Russia with only artillery and tanks. And the bobossa.Germany just needs to drop a lot of planes and bombs.
It's a pity that their battle lines are too long. In the end, they chose to use the army to attack Moscow in the Soviet Union. With the sudden cold weather at that time, the German army was defeated. Plus the United States attacked Germany along with other countries.
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Sep 27th, 2023, 12:51 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
Now the United States has sanctioned some Chinese technology companies. For example, Huawei's Level 5 technology is already the first in the world, but the United States forbids its sale and manufacture. Even Huawei mobile phones are prohibited from manufacturing.
What can China do under such circumstances? Do we also ban the sale of Apple phones? After all, mobile phones are not necessary for daily life, and there are many Android phones that can be used, so why do you have to buy an Apple phone for $1000 to $1500? Let's buy a domestic one. Mobile phones around $500 can still be used normally.
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Sep 27th, 2023, 12:58 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Kuznetsov, is not being repaired and upgraded smoothly: it will take another year or two to repair. Even if it is fixed, there are still many problems. Just like a car, it has been used for too many years, and eventually it should be forced to scrap directly, which is more cost-effective. A new car may have no problems for five or eight years, but if it is used for more than 10 years, it may spend a lot of time in the repair shop every year.
Now Ukraine is free to attack Moscow, as well as Russia's naval command. These large aircraft carriers and aircraft, as well as military factories, missile bases, arsenals, including nuclear power plants. There are also oil production bases and oil depots.
Russia's darkest hour is yet to come.
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Sep 28th, 2023, 09:44 AM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
I'd say that the Russian Black Sea fleet has been a bit of an anachronism for a while, now. They can't do much from there, as there's such a choke point for a fleet to get out to larger waters, and there aren't many countries bordering the Black Sea. As missile technology improves, stationing a fleet in such a trap is increasingly less feasible. Also, as the arctic opens up, the options that Russia has are increasing.
At best, the Black Sea should only host a few frigates. Nothing else makes much sense...until you start a war with Ukraine, at which point it does make a certain amount of sense...until a cheap drone sinks your ship.
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Sep 28th, 2023, 01:21 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
Large warships will be attacked by missiles on Ukrainian land.Unless more than 10 frigates operate together.It's too close to Ukraine. China has a vast sea area, but there are too few naval vessels.
Ukraine's missiles can attack Russia's Moscow and other, ah, short-range and long-range bases at any time. The closer Russia gets, the harder it is to defend.
Russia does not have the ability to end the war, so most of the time you attack me, I attack you, in fact, the greater loss is Russia.Now Ukraine has run out of worthy targets to attack.
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Sep 28th, 2023, 02:42 PM
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Re: Russia's navy is finished.The Black Sea Fleet is almost nonexistent
Technically, China has more naval vessels than the US does.
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