I haven't managed to get anything resembling accurate c# code out of it, and i've gotten wrong api endpoints out of it. When i asked it, it said it was guessing based on other unrelated apis. I suspect it could probably generate some relatively accurate code to play tic tac toe or checkers or something because there are hundreds of samples of that code online. If it's got to come up with something original, you end up with a train wreck.
It's made a few mistakes with VB.NET, but when I point it out, it corrects the mistake. It really depends on how you converse with it. I've experimented alot that I figured out how to get it to produce working code, or close to working code that I can easily fix. It's saving me alot of time now.
I haven't managed to get anything resembling accurate c# code out of it, and i've gotten wrong api endpoints out of it. When i asked it, it said it was guessing based on other unrelated apis. I suspect it could probably generate some relatively accurate code to play tic tac toe or checkers or something because there are hundreds of samples of that code online. If it's got to come up with something original, you end up with a train wreck.
You're probably asking it for too much. Don't ask it for complicated algorithms, it will get a lot of stuff wrong unless it's very basic and common algorithms like quick sorts, hash tables and the like. Certainly avoid asking it to write entire programs. It will definitely get a lot wrong.
Instead you have to write the code and work alongside it to speed you up with the tedious stuff like writing out basic scaffolding code such as what I showed earlier with implementing INotifyPropertyChanged.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Another way to use it is like a better Google or a memory aide. For example I wrote some code years ago to use WMI to list all processes but I can't exactly remember how I did it. Now I could go through my old projects looking for it but I have a lot of projects with a lot of files and I can't remember which file contains the code. It's just a massive time sink. I could also Google it but then I may have to go through multiple links and scroll through a lot of information that's irrelevant to what I want, just another time sink. ChatGPT can help here by honing in exactly on what I want in seconds and without all of the irrelevant fluff.
I ask it:-
Show me some VB.Net code that uses WMI to print out a list of all running processes on the PC.
And bam!
Code:
Imports System.Management
Module Module1
Sub Main()
Dim searcher As New ManagementObjectSearcher("SELECT * FROM Win32_Process")
Dim processList As ManagementObjectCollection = searcher.Get()
Console.WriteLine("Running processes:")
For Each obj As ManagementObject In processList
Console.WriteLine(obj("Name"))
Next
Console.ReadLine()
End Sub
End Module
I get exactly what I want! Even if it got something wrong here, it got me most of the way there. It saves me from having to look trawl through all kinds of information just to get that.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Not surprised. Sleazy news organization VICE tried to do this to frame Andrew Tate. However, it was so poorly done that it was laughed out of the court of public opinion, even by his enemies and disappeared from the public conversation just as quickly as it arrived.
There was also another incident where a popular "influencer" had AI porn made of her. Poor girl had a massive public meltdown when she found out.
Sadly, this is just how it goes with us humans. We are just as likely to do wicked things as we are to do good with new technology.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
I'm sure alot of you know about the AIs Dalle 2 and Midjourney. Well, I tried an open source version of them called Stable Diffusion, and created the images below with this prompt:
"Ultra realistic portrait photograph of an elderly man with wrinkles and deep lines etched onto his face, as if he has lived a long and hard life. The man should be seated in a dimly lit room with the light coming from a window on his right side. The light should be soft and diffuse, creating a natural, organic look. The man should have a serious expression with a hint of sadness or contemplation, as if he is reflecting on his life. His eyes should be deep-set and intense, conveying a sense of wisdom and experience. The man should have gauges in his ears, giving him a slightly rebellious or non-conformist appearance. The overall effect should be so realistic that it could make someone believe they are looking at a real photograph that has won an award for its raw emotion and cinematic quality. –beta –ar 2:3 –beta –upbeta"
That's why I manage to get ChatGPT to create working code most of the time, or close to working code I can easily fix. You have to know how prompt to it, and you get the desired results.
I tried the same prompt with Dalle 2, but since their text box has a character limit which I didn't know about, it managed to create these realistic images with a portion of my original prompt:
"Ultra realistic portrait photograph of an elderly man with wrinkles and deep lines etched onto his face, as if he has lived a long and hard life. The man should be seated in a dimly lit room with the light coming from a window on his right side. The light should be soft and diffuse, creating a natural, organic look. The man should have a se"
Stable Diffusion did great, but the quality of Dalle 2's images are amazing!
I played around with DALL-E once but all I could get it to produce were images that looked like they were no better than finger paintings by a 6 year old. I was trying to get it to produce something akin to high quality icons. It kinda killed my enthusiasm for it.
I never got it to make anything with this level of detail or photo-realism. I also tried to get it to generate photo-realistic landscapes but all I got were something that looked like it was painted by an amateur artist. Sometimes, they even looked like something a child would create when he first discovers the magic of paints and brushes.
I don't know, maybe I was prompting it wrong. I was more excited about ChatGPT anyways so I didn't spend much time with DALL-E.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Ok this was pretty useful, since Win32_PtrSafe.txt only had ANSI versions
> List the API declarations for the registry in the VBA programming language. Use 64bit Unicode versions.
Code:
#If VBA7 Then
Private Declare PtrSafe Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegOpenKeyExW" (ByVal hKey As LongPtr, _
ByVal lpSubKey As LongPtr, ByVal ulOptions As Long, _
ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As LongPtr) As Long
Private Declare PtrSafe Function RegCreateKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegCreateKeyExW" (ByVal hKey As LongPtr, _
ByVal lpSubKey As LongPtr, ByVal Reserved As LongPtr, _
ByVal lpClass As LongPtr, ByVal dwOptions As Long, _
ByVal samDesired As Long, ByVal lpSecurityAttributes As LongPtr, _
phkResult As LongPtr, lpdwDisposition As Long) As Long
Private Declare PtrSafe Function RegSetValueEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegSetValueExW" (ByVal hKey As LongPtr, _
ByVal lpValueName As LongPtr, ByVal Reserved As Long, _
ByVal dwType As Long, lpData As Any, _
ByVal cbData As Long) As Long
Private Declare PtrSafe Function RegQueryValueEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegQueryValueExW" (ByVal hKey As LongPtr, _
ByVal lpValueName As LongPtr, ByVal lpReserved As LongPtr, _
lpType As Long, lpData As Any, _
lpcbData As LongPtr) As Long
Private Declare PtrSafe Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _
(ByVal hKey As LongPtr) As Long
#Else
(it proceeded to also provide 32bit ANSI versions)
Make sure to always verify anything it gives you. It's very helpful, true, but it tends to get minor things wrong from time to time, especially with more obscure languages like VBA and VB6.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Yeah that's why I was questioning the time savings... double checking it's work, and all the time spent figuring out what it can and can't do, giving it more parameters for the query, etc. But for a few things it's useful, like APIs I'm familiar enough with to see they're correct right away.
When I reviewed what it gave me above there were mistakes... RegCreateKeyExW's Reserved arg should be a Long, not LongPtr (it's a DWORD), which is a bad mistake to make because it's not obvious (no way to tell it's wrong unless you know or consult MSDN/sdk/other reference) and it would fail in a non-helpful way when you called it.
The time savings come from the fact that you don't have to write it all out yourself or go trawling through old projects copying and pasting while trying to remember which project had what. You let ChatGPT bang it out in a few seconds, which it will get 95% of it correct and you just spend a couple seconds fixing the errors.
Another way I find it useful is where I already know how to do something but can't quite remember all the little details like which Dll or class it's in or what the function names are. I tell ChatGPT what I want and it gives me what I need to fill in the blanks. Many times I just write it all myself while using ChatGPT's answer as a reference to aid my memory.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
By the way, I also had the opportunity to test the GPT-4 version of ChatGPT. This one is only available for ChatGPT Plus subscribers but for $20, it's damn worth it. It's still not perfect but it sure is quite a bit better than the current one. It makes noticeably less mistakes.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
The time savings come from the fact that you don't have to write it all out yourself or go trawling through old projects copying and pasting while trying to remember which project had what. You let ChatGPT bang it out in a few seconds, which it will get 95% of it correct and you just spend a couple seconds fixing the errors.
Another way I find it useful is where I already know how to do something but can't quite remember all the little details like which Dll or class it's in or what the function names are. I tell ChatGPT what I want and it gives me what I need to fill in the blanks. Many times I just write it all myself while using ChatGPT's answer as a reference to aid my memory.
It's not a couple seconds fixing errors though, outside of a likely small set of APIs you know so well you remember if a random parameter like "Reserved" is a pointer or not. And why would you manually search old projects instead of use Google, or use a utility like my DeclareGather.
I'm seeing articles on GPT-4 which is a newer release. I saw one where it was asked to produce Python code to track monthly expenses (something along those lines) and it generated some impressive code with comments for expanding it out.
Just saw another one. Someone requested a song about a certain topic based on a particular artist's style. He them asked to sing the song in the voice of a well known artist. I think it was Eminem. It was a quality song. So can he copyright that?
That question is in the courts, at the moment. They used the catalog of various artists to train the AI. If the AI is then asked to create a picture in the style of that artist...well, then what? After all, they didn't buy the catalog they used as the training set.
ChatGPT4 was asked to explain the plot of Cinderella in a sentence where each word has to begin with the next letter in the alphabet from A to Z, without repeating any letters:
Originally Posted by ChatGPT4
A beautiful Cinderella, dwelling eagerly, finally gains happiness; inspiring jealous kin, love magically nurtures opulent prince; quietly rescues, slipper triumphs, uniting very wondrously, xenial youth zealously.
ChatGPT3 had problems with the request above, but was able to describe Cinderella in a sentence where each word has to begin with the next letter in the alphabet from A to Z, without repeating any letters:
Originally Posted by ChatGPT3
A beautiful, charming damsel eagerly faced grim hardships, in joyous kindness, longing most nobly, overcoming persistent qualms, reaching supreme triumph under virtuous willpower, xenial yearning, zestfully.
Last edited by Peter Porter; Mar 24th, 2023 at 03:32 AM.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
Yeah, that's one way to see it. The big issue is that people waited too long. Had they gone after him back in the 80s, we wouldn't have these issues. He was certainly committing fraud back then, but was able to get away with it.
Still, everybody here knows where everybody else stands, so lets not get into it too much. If a grand jury returns an indictment, then there is enough evidence to bring a case before a jury.
His enemies are weaponizing state power to constantly harassing him with bogus nonsense. That would make anyone react poorly.
What bogus nonsense? What is he being investigated for that has no merrit? Do you know something about the hush money aligation that hasn't been made public. We've all heard the phone call to Geogia where he was asking for 11,000 votes.
What bogus nonsense? What is he being investigated for that has no merrit? Do you know something about the hush money aligation that hasn't been made public. We've all heard the phone call to Geogia where he was asking for 11,000 votes.
Don't leave out the battle over classified documents...
I asked how to cook a hard boiled egg. This is exactly how I do it:
Here's how to boil an egg:
Place eggs in a pot: Place the eggs in a single layer at the bottom of a pot.
Add water: Add enough cold water to the pot to cover the eggs by about an inch or two.
Bring to a boil: Place the pot on the stove and bring the water to a rolling boil.
Turn off the heat: Once the water has reached a boil, turn off the heat and cover the pot with a lid.
Let sit: Let the eggs sit in the hot water for 9-12 minutes, depending on how well-done you like your eggs. 9 minutes for soft boiled, 12 minutes for hard boiled.
Cool the eggs: After the eggs have cooked for the desired amount of time, drain the hot water and rinse the eggs with cold water until they are cool enough to handle.
Peel the eggs: Once the eggs are cool, tap them gently on a hard surface to crack the shell, then peel the shell off.
Your hard boiled eggs are now ready to eat!
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What bogus nonsense? What is he being investigated for that has no merrit? Do you know something about the hush money aligation that hasn't been made public. We've all heard the phone call to Geogia where he was asking for 11,000 votes.
While I agree with that, Niya does have a point...though the 'weaponize' word is being wildly overused, these days. Trump was dirty as hell back in the 80s, and anybody who was paying attention in at least the northeastern US would have been aware of that. I expected him to be indicted frequently, but he wasn't. The rich ARE treated differently in this country. Everyone knew he was dirty, and yet prosecutors didn't bring charges. Why not? Probably because prosecutors don't want to get into very costly legal battles that will result in some loss making settlement, and win or lose, Trump would make the battle costly. He was lawyered up from his first days. He and his father lost a judgement about racist practices back in the 70s. Though that was mostly on his father, it certainly showed Trump that he needed to work the judicial system to the fullest. His fraudulent dealings with contractors meant that he also got plenty of experience in civil court. All of that is probably why prosecutors didn't go after his questionable activities (largely involving tax fraud). They wanted wins, he'd just be a fight.
In any case, they didn't then, but are now. They should have gone after him then, and it's a fair question to ask what has changed. This is the price paid for giving him a pass while he committed lesser crimes.
Trump could recede into the background noise again pretty quickly. All it would take is someone else to take point in opposing Uniparty policies of division, subservience to concentrated power, and military interventionism.
What bogus nonsense? What is he being investigated for that has no merrit? Do you know something about the hush money aligation that hasn't been made public. We've all heard the phone call to Geogia where he was asking for 11,000 votes.
This whole thing is a circus meant to distract the public. These people all engage in these behaviors yet Trump is the one singled out to be crucified. It's all bogus nonsense.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
This whole thing is a circus meant to distract the public. These people all engage in these behaviors yet Trump is the one singled out to be crucified. It's all bogus nonsense.
Trump was Trump before he got into politics. It's not bogus and it's not nonsense. We shouldn't be saying that as soon as you get elected to public office, no laws apply to you anymore. That is the argument that is being made when saying that it is all political. You're also wrong to say that these people all engage in these behaviors. In the US, at least, both parties dig up any dirt they can on their opponents and little is found in most cases.
Everybody makes mistakes. In US politics these days, you will never escape any that you have ever made, which makes them the most highly vetted people in the country. Cynicism is a powerful tool. Once you believe that nobody in government will be held to account, then nobody in government will be held to account...for anything.
Trump was Trump before he got into politics. It's not bogus and it's not nonsense. We shouldn't be saying that as soon as you get elected to public office, no laws apply to you anymore.
I'm not concerned with whether Trump is guilty of anything or not. The Clintons, the Trumps, the Pelosis, the Bushes, the Bidens and whoever else I forgot, they are all playing the same game. I'm not going to focus only on Trump just because "they" told me I should. Either tell me about all of them or don't tell me about any of them. I'm not falling for this game of manufactured outrage where they single out one person to focus fire so we don't pay attention to their crimes too. This is my point. All of it is hypocrisy and theatre hence it's bogus.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
I'm not concerned with whether Trump is guilty of anything or not. The Clintons, the Trumps, the Pelosis, the Bushes, the Bidens and whoever else I forgot, they are all playing the same game. I'm not going to focus only on Trump just because "they" told me I should. Either tell me about all of them or don't tell me about any of them. I'm not falling for this game of manufactured outrage where they single out one person to focus fire so we don't pay attention to their crimes too. This is my point. All of it is hypocrisy and theatre hence it's bogus.
What nonsense. It's idiocy to thing the Dems/Reps wouldn't seek to prosecute any of those people if they had any proof of a crime and they thought they could get a conviction(maybe even if they didn't think they could get aconviction). The Republicans wouuld love to find a high profile Democrat to charge with a crime.
Your only proof of bogus claims is "they" are behind all this. lol
What nonsense. It's idiocy to thing the Dems/Reps wouldn't seek to prosecute any of those people if they had any proof of a crime and they thought they could get a conviction(maybe even if they didn't think they could get aconviction). The Republicans wouuld love to find a high profile Democrat to charge with a crime.
Your only proof of bogus claims is "they" are behind all this. lol
Perhaps it's time we get back on topic. This conversation is a waste of time. The gap is just too wide.
C++ programmers will dismiss you as a cretinous simpleton for your inability to keep track of pointers chained 6 levels deep and Java programmers will pillory you for buying into the evils of Microsoft. Meanwhile C# programmers will get paid just a little bit more than you for writing exactly the same code and VB6 programmers will continue to whitter on about "footprints". - FunkyDexter
There's just no reason to use garbage like InputBox. - jmcilhinney
The threads I start are Niya and Olaf free zones. No arguing about the benefits of VB6 over .NET here please. Happiness must reign. - yereverluvinuncleber
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