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    G'Day vbwins



    Now that takes me back, do you know that the original Google Maps was built on VMS for "birds on a rail' using these languages ?

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    COBOL on and IBM mainframe. 68...

    Is someone, maybe the thread starter, going to go through the posts and get the average?
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    COBOL on and IBM mainframe. 68...

    Is someone, maybe the thread starter, going to go through the posts and get the average?
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    What's with these new fangled things called 'slide rules'? We used log tables for trig and everything else at school.

    I'm in my late 60's and started programming at school using HP Time Shared Basic (TSB) via a dial-up 110baud teletype-writer. My first computer was an Acorn Atom (6502 and Atom 'Basic' - which was quite different to the ubiquitous Dartmouth Basic). My first assembler was DEC PDP and then 6502, z80, 68000 and 8086 (which I hated and still do). My first programming was using various mini-computers (Wang, DEC, DG, Systime etc) and Basic/Fortran. Then I moved onto Pick for commercial applications - which IMO was/is the best system for data processing ever produced. Then onto PCs using assembler, Pascal, c and C++.
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    We used logs...for heating.
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    My age and my year of birth are the same. My year of birth is the same upside down.
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    This thread mentions Digital Equipment Corporation. Therefore, it is a good thread.
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    I have heard of them, but what is so good about Digital Equipment Corporation?

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    The first thing that moves after a baby duck hatches is now its mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    This thread mentions Digital Equipment Corporation. Therefore, it is a good thread.
    My father was an engineer for DEC. I've still got some of their swag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    My age and my year of birth are the same. My year of birth is the same upside down.
    You were born in year 0? Jesus, you're old!!
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    G'Day SH

    You are a sad case !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    You were born in year 0? Jesus, you're old!!
    He is still olde, but the answer is 1961

    This year is a Strobogrammatic number and will not happened again until 6009

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    G'Day VBW

    Gr8 2 see someone else from OZ on here !!!


    Quote Originally Posted by vbwins View Post
    I worked for Digital Australia for a long time out of Melbourne
    Good 1, I used to work for Comp. Pwr at 616 Col St. but worked all over Oz & Nz installing VAXs


    Quote Originally Posted by vbwins View Post
    Had a number of jobs from vms support to various management positions. You in Adelaide?
    Notice how once DEC was bought and Compaq said no more enhancements, WNT didn't get file versions etc. etc. etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by vbwins View Post
    You in Adelaide?
    Now, but lived in Bris Vegas and then Syd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    My father was an engineer for DEC. I've still got some of their swag.
    Are u interested in selling any of it ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    The first thing that moves after a baby duck hatches is now its mother.
    Riddles are such fun! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg.sa View Post
    Are u interested in selling any of it ???
    Nobody would be interested in buying it. He retired back in the early 90s. I think I've had that stuff since the 80s, and it hasn't been in storage. For example, I have a bag that was pretty well made, since I still use it thirty to forty years later, but one seam is starting to give out, and the DIGITAL logo is fading badly. Still use it, though.

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    Speaking of slide rules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E6B

    I used these in ground school but never had the money to become an actual pilot. I think I've only flown a plane from takeoff to landing twice in my life. I remember helping a school buddy through the training because while enthusiastic he wasn't much of a student. But when we got a free "sample" flight from an instructor it turned out to be too much for him. Just riding along he nearly passed out and then nearly threw up.

    If there had been a phone at the intermediate grass strip we used he would have called for a cab or even a donkey to get home. Remember the days when phones were where you found them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Swinkels View Post
    I have heard of them, but what is so good about Digital Equipment Corporation?
    They changed computing as we know it. The company was founded with usd80k. The pdp 11 range of machines democratized computing. The real growth came in the 32 bit era starting in about 1977 with the first VAX the 11/780. I managed 3 such big boxes when I ran the timesharing business in Melbourne.

    Clusters with shared access to files read/write for up to 16 nodes later expanded to many more, peer to peer networking (easinet the internal network was the largest private network in the world) the VAX architecture was so robust you could run the same code from v1 of VMS up to the latest vax version on a desktop system up to mainframe with no recompilation. 64 bit cpus. Alpha was the fastest architecture on the planet and contained many industry breakthroughs. Office Automation. The entire company ran on a product called all-IN-ONE. A global company of 120k people seamlessly shared documents and mail. VMS itself lives in as Windows. Bill Gates hired Dave Cutler one of the key vms architects to build Windows NT and he brought his team. WNT is one letter after VMS. To anyone who knows VMS internals and I did quiet well its obvious that if the source code did no go with Cutler they just did the job over. VIa or vax information architecture was a complete set of development and layered products that allowed the company to attract thousands of software houses to the platform. This meant Digital became the second largest computer company on the planet before losing their way which is the subject of several management texts.


    It was an amazing place to work driven by the key value of "do the right thing"


    It's a pity it died but we are everywhere.

    Edit. It's just possible I am biased....
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    Are u interested in selling any of it ???
    www.decswag.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    55. Started on a TRS-80 Level 1, with 4K RAM and a tape drive. Self taught. Wearing out.
    I also started on the same model I believe, self taught (mostly at school doing my own thing), and I'm also 55.
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    I'm 65.

    Started programming at university using Fortran.
    At my first job programming on Osborne using dBASE II
    Used SuperCalc and WordStar

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    42 here. Still maintaining a VB6 application for a company I started working on when I was 19

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    Hi Jonathan, you appear to be closest in age to me of all people who replied here so far! :-) What was your first programming language?

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    vbwins, a belated thanks for explaining about the DEC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante;[URL="tel:5585243"
    5585243[/URL]]Remember the days when phones were where you found them?
    Oh, yes!

    i remember an anecdote from 4-5 years ago, when i was traveling to/from work by train.
    for some still unknown reason the train had to stop at a railway station in a small village in the middle of nowhere.
    imagine some 400 people disembarking onto the platform, immediately grabbing their mobile phones, calling this uncle, that sister, this taxi-service to pick them up.
    400 people nattering into their phones.
    i looked around and suddenly started laughing.

    one older lady lady asked me what’s so funny, since pretty much everyone was pissed off.
    i just said: „I’m imagining this happening some 20 years ago“
    she: „yeah? What’s funny about that?“
    me: „nobody had a mobile phone then. And stations like this had a single phonebox on the platform…..“
    after looking at me stumped for some 5 seconds she started to laugh, too.

    ah, those were the times….
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    I'm 32 but I feel like I'm 18

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    I see we have a newcomer!

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    Tenctonese?


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    This has to be some kind of joke. But I don't get it.

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    I'm 80. Started working for IBM at 22, fresh out of the Navy.
    Think I'll retire next year, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRichG View Post
    I'm 80. Started working for IBM at 22, fresh out of the Navy.
    Think I'll retire next year, maybe.
    Are you still actively working, as employment, each day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vbwins View Post
    I thought it might be interesting to see the average age of the people using this forum and if they are all old bullets like me. I started with basic at the age of 14 on a pdp11/03 and am now 61 !!
    cheers
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    I am 43 from China. Around 1996, our high school began to learn VB, typing.At that time, we didn't have any computers in China. The cost of buying a computer is about $2000, but the salary at that time may be only $30 a month. You need to work for three to five years to afford a computer.

    By 2000, China's Internet had entered a period of rapid development. *******. Amazon e-shopping. They are slowly becoming more and more developed. By about 2010, most people began to buy smartphones and the Internet, moving from computers to mobile phones. In a few years, maybe most people will use their watches directly to surf the Internet.


    In the beginning, you only need to study for one night, and in a week, you can develop some simple software for web pages or databases.

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    Is there anyone who writes a software or manually counts it? In fact, we have very little participation.
    Maybe the average age of people who use BB has reached 50. So in another 20 years, VB6 will disappear completely.
    There are many people on our forum who have written great works and advanced techniques.
    Maybe when they are old and dead, no one can go deep into the technology of VB6.The peak period should be five years ago. With the departure of many big men, they no longer contribute technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zvoni View Post
    Oh, yes!

    i remember an anecdote from 4-5 years ago, when i was traveling to/from work by train.
    for some still unknown reason the train had to stop at a railway station in a small village in the middle of nowhere.
    imagine some 400 people disembarking onto the platform, immediately grabbing their mobile phones, calling this uncle, that sister, this taxi-service to pick them up.
    400 people nattering into their phones.
    i looked around and suddenly started laughing.

    one older lady lady asked me what’s so funny, since pretty much everyone was pissed off.
    i just said: „I’m imagining this happening some 20 years ago“
    she: „yeah? What’s funny about that?“
    me: „nobody had a mobile phone then. And stations like this had a single phonebox on the platform…..“
    after looking at me stumped for some 5 seconds she started to laugh, too.

    ah, those were the times….
    In China. It has been occupied by ride-hailing 10 years ago. As long as you take out your mobile phone, you can get a taxi to take you home soon.The cost per kilometer is about $0.3. And now it's basically probably around $0.15.
    Many people bought a new energy vehicle of about $10,000. Drive an online taxi every day as a career.The income is about $1000-$2000 per month.
    It can be done once you get off the plane or the high-speed train. You can go home soon.And a ride. The cost per kilometer may be. $0.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Swinkels View Post
    This has to be some kind of joke. But I don't get it.
    The politically correct term for these aliens was "newcomers."

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    66 here,
    Programming in college :Fortran, Cobol, Assembler, C, C++ and several more compilers. IBM365J, IBM370
    learned Wang Basic on a Wang 2200mvp in Chicago (I had my own disk platters)
    Lots of basic, IBM XT basic, Turbo Basic, Power Basic, All flavors of MS Visual Basic and now Visual Studio

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    Maybe no one will learn BASIC anymore and they'll switch to PYTHON.
    VB users may only account for less than 1%, the VB.NET users may be less than 5%, the majority of people using c #, vc + +, JAVASCRIPT, Java, swift, rust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaoyao View Post
    I am 43 from China. Around 1996, our high school began to learn VB, typing.At that time, we didn't have any computers in China. The cost of buying a computer is about $2000, but the salary at that time may be only $30 a month. You need to work for three to five years to afford a computer.

    By 2000, China's Internet had entered a period of rapid development. *******. Amazon e-shopping. They are slowly becoming more and more developed. By about 2010, most people began to buy smartphones and the Internet, moving from computers to mobile phones. In a few years, maybe most people will use their watches directly to surf the Internet.


    In the beginning, you only need to study for one night, and in a week, you can develop some simple software for web pages or databases.
    Thank You

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    Im 11, started VB at 8 myself with online stuff, and thx to flytech which made me into Classic VB by VBS spam MSGBOX video that let me start to this, Im turkish
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    We're all "getting up there." These days our taste in humor might even be changing:


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