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Sep 3rd, 2022, 12:10 PM
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Ancient History
When I'm looking for answers to programming problems that I can't solve on my own, one of the places where I go for solutions is VBForums. Well I came here today looking for a solution and I found it in one of my posts from 23 years ago!
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Sep 3rd, 2022, 12:16 PM
#2
Re: Ancient History
I guess you're one of those people who can say "I've forgotten more than you'll ever know".
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Sep 3rd, 2022, 12:34 PM
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Sep 3rd, 2022, 03:10 PM
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Re: Ancient History
I've often thought that what I wrote a month back seems like it was written by a different person.
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Sep 4th, 2022, 08:54 AM
#5
Re: Ancient History
Darn, it has been 17 years since I joined this forum!
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Sep 4th, 2022, 12:51 PM
#6
Re: Ancient History
I guess you're one of those people who can say "I've forgotten more than you'll ever know".
Or even "I've forgotten more than I'll ever know"
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Sep 5th, 2022, 04:48 AM
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Re: Ancient History
When I joined this forum I was recently hired at a shop with one single executable. I had fifteen years or so mainframe programming in COBOL and took a "Learn VB in 10 days" course for my new job. I "ghosted" this place getting answers all the time. I posted a couple thanks concerning that over the years. Then for a long time I wouldn't even try the .Net forum. Way over my head. Now everything new I do is .Net.
This is the best VB forum I know of and I have belonged to a few. Time really flies, twenty years or so a member. Or is it "time flies like the wind, and fruit flies like bananas"
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Sep 5th, 2022, 05:17 AM
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Re: Ancient History
Cobol was the one language I've used that I absolutely hated. hated. hated. We learnt Cobol in the late 70's during my 2nd year University CS and we had to produce a non-trivial program using batch Cobol (punched cards). I think it was a banking program. I vowed then I'd never write another line of Cobol - and I never have - although I've still got my old Cobol books. The verbosity of the language with it's compute statement. Ahh. I've got a migraine coming on just thinking about it.... In the 1980's I turned down a job with a software house as I might have to use Cobol depending upon client requirements.
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Sep 5th, 2022, 05:50 AM
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Re: Ancient History
Originally Posted by 2kaud
Cobol was the one language I've used that I absolutely hated. hated. hated. We learnt Cobol in the late 70's during my 2nd year University CS and we had to produce a non-trivial program using batch Cobol (punched cards). I think it was a banking program. I vowed then I'd never write another line of Cobol - and I never have - although I've still got my old Cobol books. The verbosity of the language with it's compute statement. Ahh. I've got a migraine coming on just thinking about it.... In the 1980's I turned down a job with a software house as I might have to use Cobol depending upon client requirements.
Try RPG.
I've seen RPG-Source-code, once!
I think after reading 2 or 3 lines of it i was going cross-eyed (with c-code i at least "manage" to read 5-6 lines before going cross-eyed )
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Sep 5th, 2022, 05:56 AM
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Re: Ancient History
I never came across RPG as I never programmed IBM mainframes..,
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Sep 5th, 2022, 06:29 AM
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Re: Ancient History
Originally Posted by MartinLiss
When I'm looking for answers to programming problems that I can't solve on my own, one of the places where I go for solutions is VBForums. Well I came here today looking for a solution and I found it in one of my posts from 23 years ago!
That is just wild.
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Sep 5th, 2022, 08:58 AM
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Re: Ancient History
Originally Posted by 2kaud
I never came across RPG as I never programmed IBM mainframes..,
Most business mainframes supported RPG. It was not as regularly used there, but vendors had to offer it to compete with IBM for contracts.
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Sep 5th, 2022, 10:30 AM
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Re: Ancient History
I used Pascal/Fortran/Algol68/Assembler on CDC computers and Pascal/Basic (various)/Fortran/c/Assembler on mini-computers (DEC/DG etc) then Basic/Assembler/Proc/Access for Pick-based computers (still my favourite) before moving to these newfangled PC's with c/C++/Pascal/Assembler before Windows programming...
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Sep 5th, 2022, 11:46 AM
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Re: Ancient History
Was there an Algol68 compiler for CDC machines? I remember using Algol60 but not 68. Maybe it came along later.
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Sep 5th, 2022, 04:57 PM
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Re: Ancient History
Originally Posted by dilettante
Most business mainframes supported RPG. It was not as regularly used there, but vendors had to offer it to compete with IBM for contracts.
I wrote a few reports using RPG II. That is when it used a "report Cycle". The next version was more COBOL like. CICS was my first interactive programming language.
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Sep 6th, 2022, 03:07 AM
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Re: Ancient History
Was there an Algol68 compiler for CDC machines? I remember using Algol60 but not 68. Maybe it came along later.
Algol68 was first implemented for CDC in about 1977. I first used it in 1979 (I think. It was a long time ago...). Algol68 was very different to Algol60. There was disagreement amongst the committee/group developing the standard - so much so that a certain N Wirth (who had produced Algol-W - an update to Algol60) left and developed his own language Pascal.
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Sep 6th, 2022, 08:02 AM
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Re: Ancient History
I was aware of the history, I just didn't know about an Algol68 compiler on CDC's platforms. But I was no longer working on them after about 1976.
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