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    newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Hi all.
    To start, I may be WAY off base on my understanding of this.
    As an old VB6 coder, I never really got into the later versions of VS.
    I got 2003 right after it came out, and dabbled with it, but mostly stuck with VB6.
    I'm not a professional coder anymore (for 17 years now!), but I do dabble.
    In trying to figure out what version of VS I could upgrade to (my .NET apps are in 1.1 which I understand was not supported very long),
    I started to come to the understanding that at some point MS transformed VS to a kind of subscription/account system where you have to log in somewhere (I think I saw something about having an Azure account somewhere).
    I'm not trying to become part of a membership club or log in online to access what's in the IDE.
    I just want to have a standalone system like my trusty old VB6 and occasional .NET 2003.
    What is the newest version of VS that I can get that doesn't have me logging in someplace to be able to work, or having accounts with MS or some third party entity.
    Or have I gotten this all wrong?
    And along that line, what is the latest version I could go to that I could upgrade the apps I wrote in .NET 2003 without a major overhaul?
    Thanks.
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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Modern versions of VS (since 2017 or possibly earlier) do have the option to log in, but I think you don't actually need to log in. I did log in (so settings get shared wherever I use VS), but the details get remembered so I don't need to login again.

    You certainly don't need to be online to use VS, but to install it you might need to be online (and for VS updates you do need to be online).

    Try out the free Community (or previously Express) editions of VS, which should easily cover everything you need.


    As for upgrading from 2003, there probably isn't that much difference in the effort required to upgrade the code - you may as well go for the latest edition of VS, as that will future-proof any work you do now.

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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Thanks, Si.
    That's good advice. I don't mean to say that I'm opposed to being online.
    I just don't want to have to log into any platforms or subscriptions to have an IDE in which to develop.
    I want to work in a standalone environment.
    Since you mentioned it, how does the Community edition stack up against the expensive versions?
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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    From what I understand, the Community edition is almost identical to the Professional edition, just with different license terms (free for personal use and small business).

    They have a decent comparison page:
    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/compare/

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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Quote Originally Posted by wengang View Post
    Thanks, Si.
    That's good advice. I don't mean to say that I'm opposed to being online.
    I just don't want to have to log into any platforms or subscriptions to have an IDE in which to develop.
    I want to work in a standalone environment.
    Since you mentioned it, how does the Community edition stack up against the expensive versions?
    https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/compare/ gives a pretty decent comparison of the various versions.

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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    One thing I have never been clear on is whether or not there is an occasional login necessary for the CE version. I have the Pro version with a key, whereas CE is the Pro version without a key. I never login to anything, and use VS for some seriously remote work (I have it on a Surface Pro so that I can do coding while in at tent on multi-week bike trips). I'm not totally sure how CE works, though. Do you have to refresh something monthly? I'm not sure.
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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Having recently installed the latest two versions... 19 & 22 .... I've only had to login to download VS2019 ... That's it. That's just for the download. Once installed, there was no logging in.


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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Quote Originally Posted by techgnome View Post
    Having recently installed the latest two versions... 19 & 22 .... I've only had to login to download VS2019 ... That's it. That's just for the download. Once installed, there was no logging in.


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    It's the opposite :-) No need to login to download. First month of use no need to login. But after that at least once per month need to be online to keep "logged-in" (active) status of community edition.

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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Guess we'll see ... I didn't have to login for anytihng to get the CE ... but for 2019 I had to log into my MS Account just to download it.

    BUt we'll see I guess, I've only had it installed for a couple weeks.


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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    I wasn't sure what I got at first, but I did feel that after a month, I was prompted to do something. What I ended up doing was putting the product key in, after which I have not needed to do anything. However, that was a few years back, and I forget what prompted me for the product key.
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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    Quote Originally Posted by techgnome View Post
    Guess we'll see ... I didn't have to login for anytihng to get the CE ... but for 2019 I had to log into my MS Account just to download it.

    BUt we'll see I guess, I've only had it installed for a couple weeks.


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    I just downloaded 2019 a week ago, I had to sign in to my MS account but not since then. I think there was an option when I downloaded that asked "do you want to remain logged in", I said no.

    I've has 2019 on another computer for a couple of years and have never had to log in again.

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    Re: newer VS versions and subscriptions

    I've downloaded and used VS2019 CE and I'm currently using VS2022 CE. I don't recall ever being required to log in to anything.
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