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    RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    I see there is this new project:

    https://www.radbasic.dev/editions.php

    https://twinbasic.com/preview.html

    Which do you prefer? Why?
    We are able to write code with this language?

    Share down below your opinion

    P.S.: If you know some other projects like this tell us here!
    Last edited by Attilio; Mar 4th, 2022 at 03:13 AM.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Attilio View Post
    We are able to write code with this language?
    No, there is no preview download of RadBasic so hardly anyone tried it so far.

    In this regard the comparison b/n these two is moot -- it's like comparing apples to nothing.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?
    Lazarus/FreePascal.......
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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zvoni View Post
    [/h]Lazarus/FreePascal.......
    Thank you Zvoni for your reply but I'm referring to a vb6-like project

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Not sure if RAD Basic is still under development. Last update was: August 25, 2021:

    I vote TwinBasic! It's coming along pretty nicely with constant updates.
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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    You can't vote for one in comparison until you've tried both.

    RADBasic is definitely still under development. His experience here was enough to put him off announcing updates via this forum. Carles now gives out information via Patreon to all his patrons. He is providing test versions of RADBasic for patrons to trial/test as the code grows.

    In all cases it might be wise to reserve judgement in comparison until we have something concrete in our hands from both parties.
    It has to be said TwinBasic is going well with regard to its progress and its publicity.
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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by wqweto View Post
    Here is v0.4 setup link: radbasic_0.4.0.0_setup.exe

    Didn't try it yet.
    Woah... looked into it via 7Zip -
    and it'd unpack to nearly 2GB (mostly due to LLVM-dependencies).

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zvoni View Post
    [/h]Lazarus/FreePascal.......
    I joined the RADbasic kickstarter but that didn't reach its goal.
    Instead, I'm now paying a monthly fee to twinBasic in the hopes that it will reach full compatibility with vb6.
    The huge plus of Lazarus is that it's open source, something twinBasic isn't (for fully understandable reasons).
    Still twinBasic not being open source is a bit of a worry.
    I'm not hung up on language and if there was a (even closed-source) project provide a converter from vb6 to Lazarus, I'd happily
    pay 50 a month towards its development.
    If we could get 150 people willing to commit a similar amount we might have a shot at it.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    I have paid an equal amount to both TwinBasic and RADBasic.

    I am stuck on VB6 as I realise my head is probably incapable of another move. I tried Lazarus but I found it clunky and quite an alien IDE. Not the most intuitive at least for me, things may have changed though. I do dip into Delphi from time to time to familiarise myself with the language and I have to say it is not so alien.

    Productivity though would take a significant dip and I am slow enough already.
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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by wqweto View Post
    Here is v0.4 setup link: radbasic_0.4.0.0_setup.exe

    Didn't try it yet.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidt View Post
    Woah... looked into it via 7Zip -
    and it'd unpack to nearly 2GB (mostly due to LLVM-dependencies).

    Olaf
    Yes, I tested the RADBasic setup program and after the installation, the LLVM-dependencies were over 1.5GB.

    I have a few questions:
    (1) Does twinBasic also use LLVM?
    (2) If twinBasic also uses LLVM, does the twinBasic setup folder also have 2GB after unpacking?
    (3) Could you infer from the installation files of RadBasic whether RadBasic is developed with .NET(C#)?
    (4) If RadBasic is developed with .NET(C#), can we develop a new Basic compiler and IDE with VB6 + LLVM?

    Thanks.
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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Attilio View Post
    I see there is this new project:

    https://www.radbasic.dev/editions.php

    https://twinbasic.com/preview.html

    Which do you prefer? Why?
    We are able to write code with this language?
    twinBASIC is available for download. You can download and try it for yourself. New releases are regularly available for download.
    You can write code, and copy and paste VB6 code into twinBASIC, there are some controls (Label, TextBox, CommandButton, OptionButton, CheckBox, ComboBox, ListBox, Timer, HScrollBar, VScrollBar).
    You can compile to 32bit or 64bit applications.

    I understand with radbasic you can't get an updated release unless you subscribe via Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/radbasic/posts
    So it is difficult to compare the two.

    Can anyone who does subscribe to radbasic post a summary review here? What is the current state of radbasic now?

    See https://nolongerset.com/twinbasic-update-march-6-2022/ for a (very) brief comparison of the two.
    Last edited by VB6 Programming; Mar 6th, 2022 at 11:42 PM.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Paid money to the kickstarters but got nothing in return.

    Now playing with FREEBASIC. As the name suggests it is totally free and both 32bit and 64 bit.

    Syntax is slightly different to VB6 but it supports pointers, multi-threading and other features.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by CreativeDreamer View Post
    Paid money to the kickstarters but got nothing in return.

    Now playing with FREEBASIC. As the name suggests it is totally free and both 32bit and 64 bit.

    Syntax is slightly different to VB6 but it supports pointers, multi-threading and other features.
    I'm not sure what you're talking about.
    Only Radbasic had a kickstarter and because it did not reach its target no money at all was taken from the people who pledged.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by CreativeDreamer View Post
    Now playing with FREEBASIC. As the name suggests it is totally free and both 32bit and 64 bit.
    FB is open source but still it does not support MacOS. Currently it only works on Windows and Linux.

    It is very VB6 like if you use the free and open source Visual FBEditor IDE.
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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by CreativeDreamer View Post
    Now playing with FREEBASIC. As the name suggests it is totally free and both 32bit and 64 bit.

    Syntax is slightly different to VB6 but it supports pointers, multi-threading and other features.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndicSoftware View Post
    FB is open source but still it does not support MacOS. Currently it only works on Windows and Linux.

    It is very VB6 like if you use the free and open source Visual FBEditor IDE.
    I don't see how you can describe FreeBasic as "VB6 like". It can't import VB6 source code, it doesn't support ActiveXs.

    At best it can be described as 'almost QuickBasic like'

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?


    I'm not looking at RADBasic....can anyone here answer the question?

    Simple things win me over...

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Currently it seem that twinBasic is better more progressive then RAD Basic.

    In tB there are updates almost twice a week. Of course currently the progress is a bit slow and the developer has mentioned the reasons for slow progress.

    While in case of RAD Basic the updates are very far apart.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by wqweto View Post
    Btw, April 2022 RAD Basic release: radbasic_0.5.0.0_setup.exe

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    As long as the project is still in progress, there will be more hope and even unexpected surprises at times.

    twinBasic is developed in C++. If RadBasic was developed using .Net, then this is obviously another completely new path. Maybe we can also develop a new Basic compiler with VB6.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingDataOnly View Post
    Maybe we can also develop a new Basic compiler with VB6.
    Visia Compiler from what I remember, the IDE or compiler (I'm not sure) was developed in VB6.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Episcopal View Post
    Visia Compiler from what I remember, the IDE or compiler (I'm not sure) was developed in VB6.

    Attachment 185036
    I took a quick look at the source code of Visia Compiler. Visia Compiler is still in a very early stage, and I can't see valuable information from it. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the real basic language compiler.

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingDataOnly View Post
    I took a quick look at the source code of Visia Compiler. Visia Compiler is still in a very early stage, and I can't see valuable information from it. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the real basic language compiler.
    It doesn't appear to be a VB compiler... but it's own VBish language... and hte compiler was written in VB6 (according to the screen shots... haven't looked at the source code just yet).

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    Re: RAD Basic vs TwinBasic, Which do you prefer?

    twinBASIC now has support for using ActiveX controls in twinBASIC forms.

    https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....=1#post5561881

    Here is the beta download...
    https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic/releases
    • Click on "Assets" for the latest release
    • Download and Extract the ZIP file into a local folder
    • Then run the twinBASIC.exe from that local folder.



    If you haven't previously installed the twinBASIC IDE and you're NOT using Windows 11, you might need to install the WebView2 Runtime from Microsoft. Some products, like Office 365 now pre-install WebView2 for you, so you might not need this step. Here is a link for the official WebView2 runtime:
    https://tinyurl.com/twinbasicwebview2runtime


    Further details...
    https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/t...ent-1152359335


    To get started with ActiveXs see...
    https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/t...ent-1152368905
    Last edited by VB6 Programming; Jun 20th, 2022 at 02:33 PM.

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