Write an empty value for a Entry (for ini file)

[Couin]

Hi,

Always for Jingle Palette, I would add an entry in the jp.ini file, but by default, the value oh this entry has to be empty.

Public IniSet As New ImpulseRegistryAndINI
Public IniFile As String

[...]Some code[...]

IniFile = App.path & "\jp.ini"
IniSet.Location = IniFile
IniSet.SectionKey = "Settings"
[...]Some other entries[...]
IniSet.Entry("JLabelSeparator") = ""
[...]Again other entries[...]

I remeber I had to install Impulse Studio to work on the original source code, I don't know its role, but the JLabelSeparator entry is not written in the jp.ini file and the following entries too.

Perhaps someone has a idea of how could I do ?

Thanks

[wqweto]

Perhaps someone has a idea of how could I do ?

Perhaps, if someone understand what your are talking about.

ImpulseRegistryAndINI is *not* a widely used component (far from it) so for bugs and misfeatures perhaps contact it's author/creators.

A quick google search shows up your modMain.bas as the first match for the component which speaks volumes about its popularity.

cheers,
</wqw>

[DataMiser]

No idea why you would need blank values in the file.
I typically use the API routine to read ini files and have it set to return a default value which is passed to the read routine and returned if the entry does not exist.

Of course you could always just manually create a copy of the ini file with blank values and include that with the program.

[Couin]

Hi,

Perhaps, if someone understand what your are talking about.

ImpulseRegistryAndINI is *not* a widely used component (far from it) so for bugs and misfeatures perhaps contact it's author/creators.

A quick google search shows up your modMain.bas as the first match for the component which speaks volumes about its popularity.

You are right, I found near from 0 results about its popularity. I don't know exactly why Róbert used it. Perhaps I will try to remove this needing in future.


About why empty value for an entry, it's because I would add an option where user could enter a string in a field, and if the jingle file name contains this string , this string os replaced by line feed.

For example, if the separator string is " - " , the jingle named "pic - poc" will be dispayed on the button as :
pic
poc

I need to able to store empty value in case of the user won't use this feature.

[westconn1]

did you try to put a space or some other non-printable character into the ini?

[Couin]

Hi,

I won't to set a space as separator because eache space of a jingle name will result to a line feed.
But I thing I will try with a chain or character that can not be in the jingle filename, like "?" that Windows disallow.

[westconn1]

you could also try chr(0) or chr(1)

[jg.sa]

G'Day Couin
This post makes no sense to me
Have you tried chr(32) ( I searched the page with CTRL F and cant find this string ) ?
But I have not tested this, because writing a space should delete the entry in the .ini
You might have to read and write line by line of the .ini

[Couin]

Hi,
Thanks for idea
Initially, I would store an empty value, not a space (because a space would after, put a line feed on each space in jingle name), but I tried another soltuion by adding brackets to the value.
For exemple, empty value stored as []

Then I remove first and last characters of the value to use it.
And when I change value in the setting panel, I add brackets to store it in the ini file.

[jg.sa]

G'Day Couin

Thanks for idea

Your welcome, always trying 2 help

Thanks for idea not a space (because a space would after, put a line feed on each space in jingle name), but I tried another soltuion by adding brackets to the value.

I suspect your are talking about an end of line ( EOL ) which to an old assembler programmer is CR ( chr(32) ) LF ( chr(10) ) and this is a left over from typewriters

Then I remove first and last characters of the value to use it.

And when I change value in the setting panel, I add brackets to store it in the ini file.

Maybe you need to revisit your data struc. design ?

[Couin]

Hi

Perhaps I wrongly write in english, I'm french ^^

In the original jingle palette software, the labels on jingle buttons are made from the filename without extension.
For example, filename :
I want to break free.mp3
Will display :
I want to break free

On short filenames it's nt a problem, but on long filenames, the label put the name on to lines.
For exemple, filename :
I like this Jingle palette,a fabulous software.mp3
Will display (depending the button size) :
I like this Jingle palette, a fabulous
software

But with the new feature I added, if a rename the file in :
I like this Jingle palette, - a fabulous software.mp3

and the separator chain (choosen in the settings of jingle palette), is " - " (without quotes , of course, it's only for the forum), will display :
I like this Jingle palette,
a fabulous software

Tha's why, by default (on first start of jingle palette, the jp.ini file is created), the separator chain value has to be empty, even not a space (which willdisplay :
I
like
this
Jingle
palette,
a
fabulous
software

Add brackets for storing the value only, is to have not an empty value for ini file

On starting Jingle palette, it reads the ini file, and remonte brackets from the value. Then it works with the really wanted value.
And any change of the chain in the settings, brackets are added before writing the value in the ini file.

[jg.sa]

G'Day Couin

Thank you for the more verbose explanation, your written english is much better than my written french -

The data structure of the .ini could be each word in a separate value, see below for pseudo code

For intLoop = 1 To 128

strKey = "Word."

strSessionName = Readthisstringfromini _
( _
gstrFName, _
"Filename.1", _
strKey & LTrim(Trim(Str(intLoop))) _
)

If Len(strSessionName) = 0 Then
Exit For
End If

strFullName = strFullName & strSessionName

Next

This would allow very long file names and give you granularity and fidelity over the presentation

Remember you can read a whole section from an ini with GetPrivateProfileStruct function (winbase.h)

[Filename.1]
Word.1=data
Word.2=data
Word.3=data
Word.4=data

[Filename.2]
Word.1=data
Word.2=data
Word.3=data
Word.4=data

[Filename.3]
Word.1=data
Word.2=data
Word.3=data
Word.4=data

jingle buttons are made from the filename without extension.

So we are talking about a Button Control Label ?

If 'Yes', you are going to have to have an algorithm to shorten the string for the button. eg. len(strButLabel) < 20 ???

What about 'Bubble help' on Got Focus of the buttons with the whole filename ?

This is never going to be a perfect solution, while you are using buttons.

Have you tried a datagrid or some other 'list' control, not a button ?

HTH

[jg.sa]

Are these the buttons ?


Attachment 183627


This looks like commercial software

[Couin]

Hi,

In fact, jp.ini is storing settings of the software, for example :

[Settings]
Path=D:\Users\Couin\Documents\projets_vb\Jingle_Palette-couin 5.1.2 Parser et Display duration
Device=1
Volume=100
Refresh=50
AutoMixTime=1500
Touch=0
Autorepeat=0
AutoMix=0
TimeFormat=HH:mm:ss
DateFormat=yyyy mmmm dd ddd
PaletteIndex=Another Palette
ErrorLog=0
RemainWarn=3
RemainColor=33023
ActiveTab=3
Language=English
WinWidth=12000
WinHeight=8565
WinState=2
AlwaysOnTop=0
FullScreen=0
BottomMargin=120
RightMargin=120
ConfirmExit=1
PosTop=-60
PosLeft=-60
JLabelFormat=0
JLabelFontSet=Arial,Calibri,Calisto MT,Comic Sans MS,Courier New,Impact,Lucida Sans Unicode,Microsoft Sans Serif,Tahoma,Times New Roman,Trebuchet MS,Verdana
JLabelFontSize=12
JLabelFont=Arial
JLabelFontBold=0
JLabelFontItalic=0
JDispDuration=1
JLabelSeparator=[ - ]
TimeAnnouncer=Time_Announce.wav
TimeAnnMin=59
TimeAnnSec=55
TimeAnnDel=4

You can see near the end, the JLabelSeparator setting.

The palettes of jingles are stored in a palette.ini (originaly, of palette_v51.ini as well as I added some features like play mode, button color, for a perhaps future possibility to assign a color to a jingle, and duration, to store it instead of software reads each files of a palette to get durations, on changing palette - it makes changing palette slower than before)

[A World Radio]
Path_0=Audio_Sample\Radio_Donna_(BE)_The_sound_of_summer.mp3
Volm_0=100
Loop_0=0
BTNCol_0=999999
PlayMod_0=0
Duration_0=12,90449
Path_1=Audio_Sample\Radio_Donna_(BE)_Hitmix_27.mp3
Volm_1=100
Loop_1=0
BTNCol_1=999999
PlayMod_1=0
Duration_1=29,25714
Path_2=Audio_Sample\Vibration_(FR).mp3
Volm_2=100
Loop_2=0
BTNCol_2=999999
PlayMod_2=0
Duration_2=12,72163

Jingle names are not stored in any ini file, as well as totally dependent of filename.

Also, working on ini files is actually done by ImpulseGlobal.dll (the initial author of Jingle Palette used it, soo I had to use it to run the source code). Perhaps I'll try to ride off this dll, by recoding with free natives tools (ImpulseGlobal is not free), but not a priority.
If you are interested by Jingle Palette, you could find the author source code here : https://github.com/nagyrobi/Jingle_Palette
You'll see that's an oooold (and great) software, it was no longer updated, and when I searched for its source code several years ago, there was nothing. And a little more that one year ago, I searched again and found it on github . You can imagine that made me happy, especially when I saw it was in VB6 (becuase I already practiced this language a little).

[jg.sa]

G'Day Couin

So having the SC is really handy, but I was thinking, why can't you just rename the files instead of changing the code ???

I now realise you cannot see the attachment in my previous post, so can you check this graphic and tell me if these are the buttons ?

http://beaminter.net/Jingle-palette-buttons.png

[Couin]

Hi,

Sorry I didn't see you previous message as well as was writing mine

Yes, that's are theese buttons.
Renaming files, yes, but you know that we can't put an "return/enter" in a filename, so the only way I found is putting a characters chain that JP replace on display

I did 3 examples files (bugs bunny) :
Bugs-bunny.mp3
Bugs - bunny.mp3
Bugs[ - ]bunny.mp3

The separator chain is (without quotes) : " - "
It is stored in jp.ini : [ - ]

Look at the screenprint, the line feed is correctly displayed, as waited :

[jg.sa]

G'Day Couin

So you are happy, all fixed ?

Beer oclock now !!!

[Couin]

Yes, adding bracket to only store the value fixed the problem

Cheers