Getting the ball rolling. Which VB6 projects are you working on?

[yereverluvinuncleber]

If you hate that, you may hate this even more.

I have a mediaeval version of it too.

[ img]http://www.vbforums.com/images/ieimages/2019/12/1.png[ /img]

This bloody forum, keeps swapping the original image for a locally sourced version and then swallowing it whole wit the above **** path. This is my third attempt at reposting it.

[-Corso->]

Hey Yereverluvinuncleber, how do you get your images so large on the page? Everytime I upload someting they show as small, like my last picture set... Like every picture set....

[Eduardo-]

Perhaps I made wrong assumptions when you said "but for me, the UI is everything.".

but for me, the UI is everything.

I thought in a consumer/commercial product where to please the user and to make something visually appealing is a primary goal.
More users that like the product means more sales, more income.

But of course my assumption was totally wrong.

Nobody can discuss tastes.

And I have no idea about the purpose of this project.

[yereverluvinuncleber]

Well, it is still true that for me, the UI IS everything. However this is not a commercial and nor a consumer product and so the UI is not designed to appeal to, let's say, a type of bulk consumer.

It is a product designed for a specific niche of consumers and of course visually appealing to them and probably them alone - and possibly visually appalling to the rest.

Of course we can discuss tastes, we just don't necessarily like someone else's taste. Your last comment - If you can't understand the purpose of the project it probably just isn't designed for you. Sometimes if you don't 'get' something you can just forget it and move onto something else, that is what I do. There is so much I don't like and I simply ignore it. There is so much code in the code bank...

[yereverluvinuncleber]

Hey Yereverluvinuncleber, how do you get your images so large on the page? Everytime I upload someting they show as small, like my last picture set... Like every picture set....

I don't upload. I add the image to IMGUR then drop the picture into the chat using tags.

Sometimes, if you ask the forum tool to help upload or drop the image on the chat, the forum kindly eats it and swallows it whole, never to be seen again. You may have to go back and do it all again if it does.

[Eduardo-]

Of course we can discuss tastes

People can discuss anything. The point is if it makes sense.

That we can't discuss tastes is a saying (actually the saying is "there's no accounting for taste"), and common sense.

How could someone argue with someone else that something is beautiful/ugly?

we just don't necessarily like someone else's taste. Your last comment - If you can't understand the purpose of the project it probably just isn't designed for you. Sometimes if you don't 'get' something you can just forget it and move onto something else, that is what I do.

No doubt.

There is so much I don't like and I simply ignore it. There is so much code in the code bank...

This is what I did so far.

What I don't like is when people say "this is good" not being honest. I prefer to tell the truth (at least what I think it is).
I mean, if someone has a commercial goal with what he is doing.

With 8 pages of the ball rolling I think you have to accept some different opinion. So far I only remember dilettante that said something.

On a few words: if you are saying that the UI is so important to you, can't I suggest then that IMO you better get rid of the 3D look immediately?
Why are you posting this in a public forum if you only want opinions of people that like it or has tastes similar to yours?

[yereverluvinuncleber]

Why are you posting this in a public forum if you only want opinions of people that like it or has tastes similar to yours?

Can you please relax a bit and get off your high horse? You seem to becoming defensive. This is not an argument. I appreciate your position I am simply ignoring it for my own personal reasons.

You seem to misunderstand me so let me explain and appreciate whilst I am doing so I am not arguing with you.

I do not care (in a nice way) whether you dislike the design or not, it is not relevant to me, that is the whole point. You may continue to dislike it and I will be entirely happy with that - but I am not seeking your opinion nor your approval.

This isn't to say that I am arguing with you over your opinion as it is perfectly valid for most users. It is just that I personally am not interested in your opinion with regard to design -as this project is taking a different approach. You should not get upset at that nor waste any more of your time. Certainly please don't think I am being rude to you or disrespecting your artistic eye, as I am not.

When someone does something you don't like just let them get on with it.

To answer your response, I am posting here not for approval nor of the opinions of others, it suits me if some like it, and it suits me if some do not. In this case I am responding to your specific comments out of politeness - and showing you my approach - and my reason for posting is that I'm just following the title of the thread and showing what I am currently up to.

You might want to post what you are up to. I'd love to see that. Perhaps I could cast some judgement upon your creation and you could ignore my recommendations. I'd be happy with that too.

[Eduardo-]

Can you please relax a bit and get off your high horse? You seem to becoming defensive. This is not an argument. I appreciate your position I am simply ignoring it for my own personal reasons.

You seem to misunderstand me so let me explain and appreciate whilst I am doing so I am not arguing with you.

I do not care (in a nice way) whether you dislike the design or not, it is not relevant to me, that is the whole point. You may continue to dislike it and I will be entirely happy with that - but I am not seeking your opinion nor your approval.

This isn't to say that I am arguing with you over your opinion as it is perfectly valid for most users. It is just that I personally am not interested in your opinion with regard to design -as this project is taking a different approach. You should not get upset at that nor waste any more of your time. Certainly please don't think I am being rude to you or disrespecting your artistic eye, as I am not.

When someone does something you don't like just let them get on with it.

To answer your response, I am posting here not for approval nor of the opinions of others, it suits me if some like it, and it suits me if some do not. In this case I am responding to your specific comments out of politeness - and showing you my approach - and my reason for posting is that I'm just following the title of the thread and showing what I am currently up to.

If you post something in a public forum it is not a private conversation with a single member. So if you don't care at all what I think, that's fine, but what I say is not just for you.

It does not mean that I want to make other members to think that your design is not good, no. It means that if other people is tempted to think that the 3D design is "cool" and up-to-date and that it sells, they are wrong (of course, it is my opinion).
Being the VB6 default, some people could be tempted to think that it is still "good enough" in 2022. I would say that "I don't think so". BTW the simpler alternative is to use themed controls and a manifest.

Of course, it is not for you, it is just for others, because you don't care what I think and because you already know what you are doing.

You might want to post what you are up to. I'd love to see that. Perhaps I could cast some judgement upon your creation and you could ignore my recommendations. I'd be happy with that too.

Possibly, but I need to finish what I'm doing.
But it is nothing too special regarding UI, it has mainly just normal controls themed.

[yereverluvinuncleber]

No, wrong. I DO "care" what you think, I do not discount it. I am sure it is correct for the majority of applications you might want to build. I accept it as being true for the vast bulk of people and users out there - I'm just going to ignore it. so, I value your opinion - but just I am not going to take it into account in relation to what I am doing there - as it is a deliberate implementation of that specific UI. That's it, all done. Let's move onto the next creation.

I look forward to seeing what you are doing.

[Eduardo-]

Yes, anyway I would like to know (and possibly understand) what is the purpose of your program.

So far, the idea that I have, is that it is a window to launch programs and that it has an Indiana Jones like interface.

It is a replacement for Windows execute screen, being the following the Spanish version of Windows 11 one:



But I have the feeling that I must be missing something, or possibly misunderstanding.

[yereverluvinuncleber]

Not here please Eduardo. This is turning the thread into a "what Eduardo likes and why he likes it" thread. This is not that thread.

Please open another thread for your own UI likes and dislikes when it comes to style and I will happily join it - but not here. This thread is being poisoned by an argument which I am not actually a part of and for which I do not have an opinion either way.

[Eduardo-]

Not here please Eduardo. This is turning the thread into a "what Eduardo likes and why he likes it" thread. This is not that thread.

Please open another thread for your own UI likes and dislikes when it comes to style and I will happily join it - but not here. This thread is being poisoned by an argument which I am not actually a part of and for which I do not have an opinion either way.

And what does your problem with people disliking your UI has to do with my question about what is this program about?

[yereverluvinuncleber]

Well, you are trying to be argumentative and failing and I don't want to be involved in an off topic discussion with you.

So, currently I am trying to ignore you on two levels.

[Eduardo-]

Well, you are trying to be argumentative and failing and I don't want to be involved in an off topic discussion with you.

So, currently I am trying to ignore you on two levels.

I just asked what is the function of your program (what is it for, I guess it must have a purpose, it is for "something"). I'm not all-knowing. I need to ask things.

If that offends you so much, OK, what can I say?
That doesn't seem normal to me, but it is YOUR problem.

[yereverluvinuncleber]

but it is YOUR problem.

Yes, it is. That is my point, it is MY problem but you are trying to make it yours, so I will ignore you for the moment and describe what the program is for later when I have the time and the inclination - but not here on this thread.

I find a skill on this forum is identifying when someone wants a battle. So forgive me if I bow out without a fight as I have more pressing things to do. Also, forgive me if I misunderstood your intentions but I don't think I did!

[Eduardo-]

Yes, it is. That is my point, it is MY problem but you are trying to make it yours,

No, you are making mine (and everybody else).
I don't want to have any problem.
When I said "your problem" I meant "unable to face critiques".

Having that Windows 2000 UI is, yes, in fact your problem (and I don't care/I'm not interested on it).

so I will ignore you for the moment and describe what the program is for later when I have the time and the inclination - but not here on this thread.

Do whatever you want.

I find a skill on this forum is identifying when someone wants a battle.

There is not need for much skill, it is clear who is trying to have a battle here.
Someone that feels like is attacked with nuclear weapons because is unable to accept that some people won't like something he did.

So forgive me if I bow out without a fight as I have more pressing things to do. Also, forgive me if I misunderstood your intentions but I don't think I did!

The only one that is trying to start a fight is you.
OK, I'm out. Bye.

[yereverluvinuncleber]

OK, cheerio. No fight to be had here.

[Episcopal]

Phew!

[Episcopal]

To refine an art (program) takes so much work.

I'm trying to improve my component, and I never finish.... there's always a bug. I want to refine it to bring it to the public.


Edited: And you?

[yereverluvinuncleber]

My coding ability is minimal at best. I am NOT a programmer as the definition holds. I am hobbyist with hobbyist-level skills. Therefore all my code is really just one giant bug. In amongst this giant bug I create sub-bugs. I fix those and in the process I find that I am learning.

A bug a day keeps the ridicule away - for when I eventually release it.

[yereverluvinuncleber]

My current desktop showing three of my main VB6 applications. I feel I am slowly getting to a place where I could demonstrate my code and not be truly ashamed. I am perfecting the UI (to my own personal tastes) and implementing improvements as I discover how to do them.

I am just implementing drag and drop to and from various locations and rolling my own message box.

I was thinking of coming up with a name for the whole shebang, perhaps TempleOS?

[gaouser]

bro I use vb.net now can you post a vb.net one pls

[yereverluvinuncleber]

I have a working VB.NET version of the icon Settings tool, just the one on the right but I largely gave up on it one third of the way through. It is now so out-of-touch with the VB6 version that it would need a lot of work to bring it up to standard. I might do it one day but not yet as I am still teaching myself VB6.

None of the other programs are yet in VB.NET and I don't want to spend my remaining years in programming in VB.NET.

[fafalone]

gaouser, there's a VB.NET board and a VB.NET CodeBank, maybe you should be posting there if you want VB.NET projects, this is the VB6 board.

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I too refuse to spend my remaining years programming in .NET, and I'm only in my 30s

[yereverluvinuncleber]

I have just completed my implementation of standard and OLE dragging/dropping within the utility I am currently fettling. Now working on automatically extracting installed program names from the registry and start menu.

Nothing to show visually. Working on a bug or feature per day and as a result of this slow but steady progress, this utility is finally 99% complete bar the testing, manifest building, packaging &c.

What are you up to chaps? Some images of your current projects would be interesting and might even boost our coding spirits. It would be really appreciated.

Despite the bad news in the world, the good news emanating from TwinBasic and RADBasic - progress on creating new successors to VB6. It feels rather nice to be involved in something that is, for the first time in decades, VB6 close to the cutting edge of technology - something completely new in the world of VB6. Who'd have thought it?

For a while I really thought about migrating all my tools to VB.NET, if only for 64bitness and future proofing. I'm rather pleased that I avoided that migration now.

Your photos please chaps, let us see what you are up to!